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Archive 1Piano Trio No.2, Op.66 (Mendelssohn, Felix)Hello Perlnerd666, I was looking for practice parts of the aforementioned piece, since my online order only had a score; and when I went to check the practice parts, they were of Trio no 1 op 49! I just wanted to point that out to avoid future confusion and/or frustration. Thanks, Artifex5070
Hello...Thanks for your message the other day. I left some comments and questions on my discussion page that you may wish to see or respond to. Best Regards, User:homerdundas Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, K.581 (Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus)Hello and Welcome to IMSLP. You redirected the above page to another page. It is good to have no redundant work pages, but by redirecting you removed all content. The content was a broken file entry, which you of course couldn't know. I have put them back on the new page; the latest addition was a duplicate of it. --Peter talk 12:50, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
category changesHello Perlnerd666, I have noticed you corrected some genre categories (e.g.String_Quartet_No.13_(Beethoven,_Ludwig_van)). I would advice to wait with this and prevent redundant work, as the lack of the right categories in these pages is actually due to a known bug. When fixed, the correct genres should return as they were submitted. Cheers, Peter talk 18:23, 14 July 2008 (EDT) Barhms: Sextet filesDear Perlnerd666, I don't see why you are claiming there is an "uncertain copyright status" about the edition, which was issued by Breitkopf and the Gesellschaft für Musikfreunde in 1926-1927, edited by Hans Gal and Eusebius Mandyczewski. The entire edition is PD in the USA and has been reprinted by Kalmus and Dover. It is also PD in the EU because of the rules covering Urtext editions (25 years from publication), and likelwise PD in Canada because urtext editions fail to meet the threshold of originality to qualify as an "adaptation" under Canada's statute. You will note that we have the symphonies from this edition posted here, despite the fact that Gal lived until 1987. Carolus 17:31, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
They were published without proper copyright notice, which injected them into the US public domain upon publication. By 1996, when the GATT revisions to US law came into effect, the complete edition was already public domain in its country of origin (Germany) due to the urtext provisions of the German law (Sect. 70) and thus not eligible for "restoration." As mentioned above, these editions continue to be reprinted by Dover and Kalmus - who could not do so were it otherwise. Carolus 15:18, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
Hierarchy of Items on a PageHello Perlnerd666, Please hold off on doing this until we've settled the order and which levels to use for what. (We've been having a discussion over at the Forum). Also, the term "full score" is not employed for items like Violin Sonatas. It is typically used only for larger ensemble pieces from chamber music to orchestra and band. "Complete score" is a safer bet when describing piano works, violin/piano, cello/piano, etc. Thanks for all your help in cleaning things up! Carolus 01:43, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Merging of filesHi Perlnerd666,
Searle listing of Liszt's worksHi, actually on IMSLP Liszt's works have been carefully ordered after Searle numbering which clearly distinguishes between orchestra, solo, 4hand or 2 piano versions! Before changing/redirecting existing pages this should be discussed with the admins Peter or Carolus and Funper who created most of the Liszt pages. Hobbypianist 13:07, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
Pachelbel Magnificat FuguesDear Perlnerd666, Glad to find the Magnificat Fugues by Pachelbel. I played some when I was young en now you present the complete set. However, complete: instead of set III you updated BWV12 (cantata Weinen Klagen by Bach). I look forward to the remaining Fugues. With regards, Jan Mannee
CCARH ScoresHello, I see you've uploaded a few of these. I'd like for you to hold off on any more until I contact the folks there to see if it is OK if we host all of their files here. For one thing, we need to credit the respective editors of the editions and assign the correct Creative Commons license. Thanks, Carolus 15:28, 16 November 2008 (EST) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)
I talked with CCARH today. I think they will be OK with us having the PDF scores mirrored here. They will be sending a reply next week, so please continue to hold off on uploading any additional titles until we know for sure. BTW, I notice you are inserting the Schubert complete works publisher template in to all those songs Aldona has so kindly uploaded. The style for publisher listing should be the original publisher on top, followed by the reprint publisher on the line (or lines) below. I did this one - Die Schatten, D.50 - as an example for you. Thanks for doing all of that kind of tidying up. It makes the site easier to read and use (even though very few users seem to realize it) - sort of like a well-designed house. Hopefully we'll be able to set up a style guideline in the next few months. Carolus 20:09, 21 November 2008 (EST)
Hi again, I noticed we're picking up quite a few of the exact year dates for the Schubert volumes. I have thus modified the template so that you can add the dates to the existing items by insterting another vertical bar (|) after the plate number (if present) and adding the date (|1889). If you look at the overtures, you can see exactly what I did to add the date. We'll have to add a publisher page for Baerenreiter sooner or later. It's on my "back-burner" list of things to do. BTW, the recent addition of Alberti's Op.1 Sonatas has embedded MIDI files so you can listen the piece to by clicking on the first measure of music - really very nice. Carolus 01:29, 24 November 2008 (EST) Hello...Thanks for your message the other day. I left some comments and questions on my discussion page that you may wish to see or respond to. Best Regards, User:homerdundas Mozart gesamtausgabeYou can find the number of each work in the complete edition on top of the first page of the score. cheers Peter talk 16:11, 27 November 2008 (EST) Template:Schubert SymphoniesHi Perlnerd, sorry to revert your edit of the Schubert Symphonies template, but the assymetry of the two C major symphonies (“Little” and “Great”) facing off symphonies 1–5 was quite deliberate on my part. The transitional nature of the 6th symphony is partly reflected by the succession of unsuccessful attempts (D 615, 708a, 729, 759) at moving to a new style, before he acheived it with the Great C major. There’s no need to balance the two sides. If anything, relegating the B minor symphony (the archetypal "Unfinished") to the lower half of the template is the most awkward feature of the template at present, since the two extant movements are frequently performed just by themselves: none of the other fragments or “unfinisheds” are in a performable state, as Schubert left them. May I suggest that if you have really dramatic arguments against this, we take the discussion to the template’s talk page? Regards, Philip Legge ♇ @ © talk 18:04, 6 December 2008 (EST)
featuredThanks for the work on the featured list. This is really bringing nice scores to attention. In the past this list changed only a couple of times a year:) --Peter talk 05:23, 19 December 2008 (EST)
Schubert Songs (Series XX of the Gesammtausgabe)Hi, I looked this up the other day when I had access to OCLC. Apparently, the whole series was issued in the two years 1894 and 1895. Therefore, I've been listing the year as "1894-95" in the last slot of the template. If you have other information which contradicts this, let me know. Also, we can probably surmise the plate numbers from the ones I already found for the cycle Die schöne Müllerin, D.795 (Op.25) (Nos.433-452 = plates F.S. 790-809). Thus, the plate for No.453 is probably F.S. 810, the one for No.432 is F.S. 769, and so on. Carolus 23:18, 3 January 2009 (EST)
growthWe grew from 16,000 to 24,000, this is just an increase with 50 % I think ! --Peter talk 01:02, 7 January 2009 (EST)
Re: Schubert String Quintet(looking around in collection of Kalmus reprints...) Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the String Quintet at the moment. I'll certainly put it on my priority list to look out for. (not only that, but life is not getting less busy after the holiday period like I thought it would...I'm back at work full-time after a couple of months of part-time work, and I don't know when I'll get a chance to scan much more again.) Thank you for all your hard work and quality control!Aldona 16:42, 11 January 2009 (EST)
Main PageHi there, I've made a copy of the Main Page that anyone can edit. Feel free to make any changes you see fit. (I have already made some small changes, and maybe I'll make some more.) Thanks for your help. --Leonard Vertighel 08:04, 16 January 2009 (EST) main page/contributor portalHi Perlnerd, I'll reply to some of the issues you brought up on Feldmahler's page. As far as the Main Page is concerned, I can copy it over any time. I was thinking however that maybe the introductory paragraphs could use some rewriting. Some of the wording sounds a bit clumsy to me ("You can read the full list of goals..."), and I wonder if that 'please use the "Discussion" link' part shouldn't be removed, as to my knowledge it has never really worked (or are you aware of any noteworthy musical discussions going on on the wiki talk pages? I don't think I've ever seen any, but obviously I don't know every single page here...) Maybe we should mention the forums instead. What are your thoughts? For design issues, you should probably also be talking to me, since I made the current Main Page and portal. Problem is, such a design is not something I cough up in an hour or so (and I'm not really a designer by trade), and I'm currently very busy myself. In fact, the Contributor Portal is one of the things that I would like to see redesigned myself, but I don't know if I'll get around to it in the near future. Apart from the aesthetics, are there any specific changes that you would suggest? --Leonard Vertighel 17:27, 25 January 2009 (EST)
DvorakHello Snailey. Thanks for your message. Can you tell me if any files of the Dvorak complete edition have been uploaded yet? P.davydov 10:51, 1 February 2009 (EST)
OK, I've taken out all the links except for the Slavonic Dances. P.davydov 13:00, 1 February 2009 (EST) I've just found another one — the two-piano arrangement of the Piano Concerto in G minor is from the complete edition! P.davydov 15:11, 1 February 2009 (EST)
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Archive 2CRHi snailey, I have the impression you want to become a CR ;) If I'm not mistaken, you're not really ready for it as you do more work on the wiki itself. But you make a really good impression on what you do. Of course, the learning curve can be steep :) The problem would be that we would have to recheck the tags of beginners, which means more instead of less work - actually we had a bad experience with one reviewer before the takedown, with sometimes real "tag wars". On the other hand, as each new file is blocked, you don't really have the opportunity to learn... Therefore, a good solution would be to divide CRs in different groups, whose activity can be flagged or monitored (ultimately by our CR Godfather Carolus) and you would get after time a sort of promotion... I don't know how this is programmable, I'll ask Feldmahler. --Peter talk 04:47, 2 February 2009 (EST)
CCARH ScoresHi Snailey, I just got an e-mail from CCARH (at last). They want to have their items mirrored here at IMSLP. They also want to upload everything themselves, so that they can make sure that only the latest, most correct versions of their scores are available. So, I'll be getting rid of the items you uploaded last fall in order that they can have the versions they want here. When Feldmahler returns, he will be coordinating with them for a more automated method of mirroring their scores here. I just wanted to let you know so that you won't spend time uploading any their items. Thanks, Carolus 17:23, 13 February 2009 (EST) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)
Mergercomment added! CleanupThanks, Snailey. I'll try to eliminate the rest of the "Other/Opera" category tonight. I can't resist being a bit of an IMSLP Gnome! — P.davydov 12:04, 22 February 2009 (EST) Main pageHi Perlnerd, I had to revert some of your changes to the main page, since the headings were nearly illegible. Also, please avoid making too many minor changes, as each edit invalidates the translations (like this). Thanks, --Leonard Vertighel 11:19, 23 February 2009 (EST)
My user pageThanks for your vigilance in sorting that out so quickly, Snailey. I hadn't even noticed that 'our friend' was back P.davydov 16:43, 24 February 2009 (EST)
DeletionsHi Perlnerd, what was wrong with Category:User uk and Category:User uk-N? It would help if you put an actual reason in the "Reason for deletion" box... --Leonard Vertighel 16:48, 24 February 2009 (EST)
I guess I understand now - the real problem was with Template:User uk. I fixed it and restored the categories. --Leonard Vertighel 17:06, 24 February 2009 (EST)
Please check Help:Page deletion. The page has been around since January and might therefore have been linked from other sites, personal bookmarks, emails, etc. Since the content still exists on IMSLP, the link should not be broken. I turned the page into a redirect. --Leonard Vertighel 10:45, 2 March 2009 (EST)
Composers needing redirectsI'll keep a going list of them, since I don't know too many off the top of my head. Jon.t 13:18, 4 March 2009 (EST)
taggingPerlnerd, A few hours into CR-ship you already started to retag tags by carolus and me. We both have an experience of > 10000 tags so I strongly suggest you to start with easy ones and to discuss these difficult ones on the talk pages. I have already talked about this in a PM on the forum. I can mistakes sometimes, but you should especially consider tags of Carolus the right ones. it would be a great difficulty if we'll have to recheck all your tags every day. some corrections and remarks:
--Peter talk 09:00, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
TypesetsThere are a number of typesets which have been here since before shutdown, like the Beckwith Organ voluntaries you re-tagged. As far as we know, the poster never actually obtained formal permission for these. However, since they've been up so long with no complaints, we tag them C/C/C. It would be helpful if you would list the typesetter as editor (which they are by virtue of the fact they re-typeset the piece) and publisher (which they are by virtue of the fact that they posted the item here) along with changing the copyright status to the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0. I know it probably seems like we're "piling on", but you're stilling learning the fine points. Thanks to your re-tagging of Myaskovsky, I actually discovered a few of the items were PD in the USA after all - and added Amazon links for them. Carolus 14:00, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
Goldberg VariationsHello Snailey, I didn't know, where to place it. I tried on the page of IMDBP (does anybody use this?), but the wikitable didn't work. Rarus 20:34, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
new compositionsdear perlnerd, Submitters of copyrighted works (new compositions, new typesets) have to prove they are the copyright holder of the work or they have permission from the copyright holder, unless a CC license or comparable is explicitly mentioned in the file. the permis. granted tag is litteraly what is says, and is meant to use for this circumstances. otherwise use Non-PD. if you do have the permission, please mention it in your tag so we don't have to double-check it. We (normally) ask on the user's talk page. I made some templates for some of these cases to speed things up : Template:MsgLivingComposer and Template:MsgTypeset. greetings, Peter talk 13:09, 11 March 2009 (EDT) tipA great site for looking up biographical information for lesser known editors or composers (like M.S. Pekelis) is www.musicsack.com. Peter talk 16:16, 11 March 2009 (EDT) Tui St. George TuckerHi, I see you've started cleaning up some of the mess there, for which I am most thankful. A couple of small things: There's no point in listing her as "editor" since it is assumed that all composers edit their own works (to a greater or lesser degree). Some could be quite obsessive about it (Bruckner and his symphonies, for example). Also, all of her stuff went up on the St. George Tucker website in 2006, so the publisher credit should be the same as it is now on Super Flumina Babylonis for all titles. Everything submitted are really manuscript scans, too. I also include the special copyright permission granted template on original, fully protected works like this in order to try and scare off folks like our friends over at SMA. Mr. Jurgrau (the copyright owner) graciously gave permission for the works to be posted here, so I'm trying to help him out by making sure there are plenty of links back to his site. Thanks, Carolus 23:40, 11 March 2009 (EDT) Your template appears to be working just fine! Carolus 21:40, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
I was thinking of moving the stuff from Ponce Cuellar to the page for Manuel Ponce (which is the form found in LOC). I'll hold off on this transfer until I'm sure the vandalism is stopped. Carolus 22:13, 12 March 2009 (EDT) Stuff by Infopanda
You dumbass I have thousands of proxies. And I am soon to be done creating a bot to automate my vandalism. Cheers, Lalal213 21:47, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
SomeoneSomewhereKeep an eye on the new use SomeoneSomewhere. Carolus 15:40, 13 March 2009 (EDT)
In case it is infopanda (I'm sure it isn't), it would probably be better for him not to know that an admin is sniffing the trail, no?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 16:01, 13 March 2009 (EDT)(How 'bout that signature ;-))
Feeding the PandaI wouldn't glorify him like this, with those pages you made. See wikipedia:WP:DENY Letsdrinktea 15:18, 14 March 2009 (EDT) Re:Feeding the pandaUser talk:InfoPanda is now all that's left.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 15:27, 14 March 2009 (EDT) Cleanup You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{newmessages}} template. AliasHi Snailey. Thanks for setting my mind at rest. It was just the fact that three of the sysops suddenly started alias accounts that set alarm bells ringing! And thanks again for the clean-up star - that must have taken quite a bit of designing! — P.davydov 13:44, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
starheh, I only now noticed your star! thanks --Peter talk 18:10, 15 March 2009 (EDT) |
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Archive 3The Choral Wiki gets hitGood thing you guys already resolved the problem. See [1] Also, whats with the annoying capcha Letsdrinktea 21:05, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
SchikeleThanks. P.D.Q. rocks! CVCPlease carefully review biographical information about editors, the year of death of Louis Winkler is easy to find. thanks, Peter talk 19:35, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
Sibley TemplateYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{newmessages}} template. MIT projectSome scores in this project require a lot of experience to identify. If you have difficulties identifying scores in the archive, just let me know which I should take a closer look at --Peter talk 18:32, 21 March 2009 (EDT) USA CopyrightHi, Be sure to actually look at a file before assuming a publication date and presence of a valid copyright notice. For example, the Joseph Weiss piano transcription of the Passacaglia for Organ, BWV 582 has a copyright claim of 1917, placing it in the PD for the USA - despite the fact that it is a revised edition issued in 1926. Carolus 02:08, 25 March 2009 (EDT) tagging?you're doing some weird tagging. What's happening? if you want to change a tag made by Carolus and me, please specify why in the comments section. --Peter talk 10:25, 29 March 2009 (EDT) StarThank you very much for all about star.....Those are only photocopies.... Ciao Carmar Featured ScoreNice with featured scores, but could you please let them stay there for some days, maybe change them every week (The score of the week) , or every second week. Gives people time to actually study and enjoy them, Thanks Normus 12:40, 3 April 2009 (EDT)
HelloI need help determining whether my score is PD or not. I have the orchestra part for Carmen Suite. No1. The publisher is Kalmus and the copyright date is not listed. Thanks, Letsdrinktea 15:57, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
Buffalo/Erie CollectionHi, This is in reference to Judy Hirsch's post over that the Contributor Portal talk page. I've been in touch with Judy and they have an absolutely enormous collection of scores and parts, nearly all of which are public domain. I'll have to give her a call and confirm things, but this will add something like 30,000 files to what we already have. Please don't announce anything over at the forum until I've confirmed things with her. Needless to say, I'll be in touch with our traveling boss, Feldmahler, about this as well. I expect we'll need to set up a special upload page like the one that's has been created for the Sibley Project. Thanks, Carolus 19:53, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
Dvorak Complete Works templateI think we've discussed this before, but here goes again. The term "Společnost Antonína Dvořáka" means Antonín Dvořák Society. It is the "corporate author" of the complete works edition, not part of the title of the series. I removed this from the template because we don't list the corporate author in any of the other complete works templates, just the title of the complete edition itself (along with series and volume numbers, etc. Also, it's really less than desirable to have 3-4 lines devoted to publisher descriptions of this type unless they're necessary (like to disprove a bogus copyright claim on a reprint). This especially hold true for long pages like the one for the Slavonic Dances. We might want to think about using the acronym SNKLHU or Editio Supraphon instead of the long-winded bureaucratic imprint. Thanks, Carolus 16:17, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
Add Composer pageHi Snailey. I've just finished reviewing the 1700 or so composer category pages, checking their dates of birth and death, Wikipedia links, and adding alternate names. It might be helpful if some of the wording on the "Add Composer" page could be changed from "First (and Middle, if existant) Name" to "First Name(s)", to avoid the "Wilhelm Richard Wagner" and "Anton Leopold Dvorak" type of situation! What do you think? — P.davydov 13:10, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
Peter van BelkomHello, I'm Peter van Belkom, indeed. 'Kombelpeter' is an anagram. Bye, Kombelpeter allegroamabileI'm sure everything will work out. allegroamabile just needs to learn there is a reason we have procedures in place - and not to make remarks about folks being lazy, especially since I was the one who checked out the Peruvian site for the item uploaded last July. I've contacted the Clarinet Institute about having files for the arrangements and typesets duplicated here. If they're OK with it, maybe allegroamabile can help us out by uploading their stuff here. Carolus 23:35, 5 June 2009 (EDT) I did something!!!so are u happy o great perlynerd? :D
UEI don't understand why you're hiding factual, objective, neutral-point-of-view information, both on UE and your talk page. I reverted the UE page because I could not find a single offending word in it, and your e-mail does not change this in my point of view. Moreover, this is a considerably important fact in U.E.'s history and in music publishing industry in general. yours, Peter talk 16:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC) Dvorak: Symphony No.9 - Violins IDid you actually look at the file Notnd uploaded? It has the website URL (a possible trademark) of a Chinese publisher embedded as a watermark on each page. This is not really acceptable and its a sub-standard quality scan to begin with. Needless to say, don't tag things like this V/V/V. Besides, we'll have a much better Violin I part when the OMP is up. OMP could use a little template along the lines of the Sibley Project template, if you haven't already done one. Now I'll have to go over to Notnd's page and rap him on the knuckles. Carolus 19:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
re:HolstOk, I'll keep that in mind. I just need to ask you something, where did you come up with the screen name Perlnerd666? Oh and another thing, how did you add the nice gadgets on your user page? - Allegroamabile
Bach-BusoniThis does not get its own page under Bach, but goes to the regular page for the WTC. It would get its own page (maybe) under Busoni, since he did a huge number of Bach editions. Thanks, Carolus 04:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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Archive 4good Night, Good night and Good Night
Its absolutely a usefull list dealing with different kinds of b.c. music and organ/harpsichord in different constallations. Read some critic from TOLENTINO, but he points out that he is incompetent.Well I am not.I am a professional organist.Can I have it back please???
one for organ and one for harpsichord. Its already exsisting one list for organ and harpsichord solo.Its totally been used over 100000 times already (Proves that it serves it purpose) This list is almost complete and gives a good overwiew of the content on IMSLP. The reason why i wanted to have organ and harpsichord music in one list is obvious. A lot of the music in the baroque periode is written without specification of instrument.Some of the music are probably written for organ but also played on harpsichord.etc. (I have tried to keep this music on the organ list with comments on the side...Still working on it). Its simply gives a better overwiew to keep it in this way This list have a stylistic approach too. It seems that you now plan to make lists that are: 1.Without completness (Give no indication of the real content of Imslp.) 2.Without a stylistic approach, its all mixed up (nations and styles) Conclution THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT BETTER I thought the spirit of IMSLP was to cooperate, not to redo things in a bad way. Normus 21:57, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Normus 23:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Denkmäler der Tonkunst in Österreich.All volumes are urtext and should be tagged accordingly. Thanks, Carolus 06:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
PLP(from my talk page, re: forum thread) Actually it's Petrucci Library Press not Petrucci Library Publishing. Other than that detail, yes, it looks fine. Carolus 22:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC) Ottaviano (as in Ottaviano Petrucci) is a pseudonym available to any who do not want to draw attention to themselves. In light of my 'day job', I like to keep a low profile. Carolus 19:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
No password needed, just use it as you wish. I expect Carmar and myself are the main users of it, I changed one of Pierre Chepeov's uploads at his request also. This isn't something that needs to be announced, naturally. If a user send a message about being afraid of getting in trouble with a library, etc. (because of the ridiculous idea some libraries seem to have about having a de-facto copyright on their public domain holdings), tell them to use Ottaviano. He's sort of the patron saint of this project, after all. :) 19:55, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Incidentally, it won't let me login without a password.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 19:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Ralph Theo MischThank you very much for thy rapid reaction - incredible! But here in Germany it's late now (02:14) and I have to look for nearly every word in my dictionary. So I'll answer you tomorrow. Best wishes, Ralph Theo Misch, July 28, 2009.
FLATBy the way... is it possibly to use {{flat}} in titles of works... I keep getting 'Invalid title'.
Instrumentation shorthand on Berlioz pagesHi Snailey, I notice you're lengthening out the Instrumentation fields on a number of pages; can I suggest you be a little more careful with the Berlioz ones? The specifications for most of the works were entered by me directly from theError creating thumbnail: The thumbnail for this file has not been created yet. , so they're usually more accurate than the designation of instruments derived from the old Breitkopf & Härtel edition of Malherbe/Weingartener. Also, you've mangled some of them. For example,
Perhaps leave the shorthand behind somewhere else on the page, or in the instrumentation field after a line <br>eak perhaps? For absolute economy of description, shorthand is useful (believe it or not). Philip Legge @ © talk 00:04, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry - I don't care much for that piece, I guess it must show ;)
HelloThanks for the welcome. I wanted to make the list because I am tired of having to dig through mounds of articles to find something that I can actually play. On a sidenote, how did you compile that list so fast??? Thanks so much for doing that! ThanksOk, sorry about that. I had mistakenly edited it, but fixed it. Pcfreak101 00:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC) JeuxThanks, Company arrived. Gotta go. Carolus 02:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC) AdminHi Snailey. Thanks for the invitation, and I've responded in the affirmative :-) — P.davydov 16:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC) Freie Verienigung zur Förderung guter GuitaremusikHello, Perlnerd666, I've corrected the spelling of the title, but I don't know how to correct the title of the work page (technically). Regards from Ralph Theo Misch, 01:21 (MEZ), August 5, 2009
user nameIs it possible to change one's user name? --Robert.Allen 21:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Recordings SectionAfter adding the |Recordings= feature to the work page, I realized that it wrecked havoc on the add file function, since people will likely put it before the WORK INFO section (and which would break the add file function). The only reasonable solution to fix it short of a complete code rewrite of that chunk of code is to rename it to |NCRecordings= so that it does not collide with the file-level |Recordings=, and the add file page will make an exception for it. Hence, you will need to change all the pages that you previously added recordings to |NCRecordings=.
Sorry for this! I've tried many things and this is the only sane solution. --Feldmahler 00:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Good to be back!Thanks for the message...I've been continuing to lurk daily, just haven't had a chance to contribute much. Plus there seems to be a lot more people now who are active importing scans from other collections such as Sibley. I've been even more busy than usual - work is still crazy - but a lot of the "busy" now is a good kind, because it is all about music. My husband and I are involved in running our church choir (which continues to get bigger and more enthusiastic) and there is a local amateur orchestra trying to form, which wants to collaborate with our choir as well as steal me and my alto flute. IMSLP is looking fantastic, it just gets bigger and better every day, and I am constantly surprised by how few people know about this amazing resource. Aldona 20:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC) List of Compositions Featuring the HarmoniumHi Perlnerd666, thanks for your help! All for today. I only wanted to start. Ralph Theo Misch, 02:31 (MEZ), August 7, 2009 Thank youThank you, Snailey. I have some more works to upload, but the scores are on another computer, at my studio. I will copy they, probably tomorrow night. Thank you for the nice words. --Ggianelli 03:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC) Cui awardHi Snailey. Thanks for the award! Ironically, Tchaikovsky and Cui didn't usually see eye-to-eye, so it's an unusual choice :-) — P.davydov 18:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
On behalf of Pyotr Ilich, thank you :-) — P.davydov 17:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
RefrainYup, okay I will. Furthermore, I will key in more works, mostly ones that I find fun to key in, actually -- but if you indeed have one that you'd prefer to see Lilypond'd in a short time since it is one favourite of yours, do not hesitate to name it. I might just as well pick that one as my next (currently, "Random page" helps me the most.) Quinyu 19:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Anonymous
Indeed.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 02:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Archive 5GadgetsI would like to ask you how do you make a chart (musical list purposes) on my user page. Another thing I would like is the window where it tells you what pieces you are currently playing (like the one you have). --Allegroamabile
FYIJust got a message from Yagan about the inaccessible Wiki subforum, so I went ahead and fixed the forum permissions myself. --Leonard Vertighel 08:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
HeyHey! Nice to be welcomed back :) I'm really sorry, but I don't think I remember you with that nickname (Snailey) - who are you? :P I'm trying to patch up the Greek translation, at the moment, which should take some time. But it's getting there. I started today with the main page, but there's lots and lots of pages to review, and quite a few ones I have to create from scratch. Time to refresh my wiki markup knowledge :P jujimufu 13:44, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
SibleyThank you re the flat and sharp tags. Re the first part (circulation cards): already noticed my mistake, knew no way to correct it, but thank you also. Eric 18:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC) Dvorak MassI messed up when I uploaded the vocal scores for that piece. It turned out that I accidently uploaded a duplicate listed as a different movement (Sanctus= another Kyrie). I wanted to delete the last three scores I uploaded on that page and it did not turn out well. It should be an easy fix but it's my fault. Sorry One more thing, I added the Benedictus and Agnus Dei yesterday and they are not showing up. Could you make them appear? I am also going to add the Sanctus but I am going to list it as 3.0 copyright liscense. You can change it to the appropriate one. Thanks
Schumann Op.42(Move log); 05:15:12 . . Perlnerd666 (Talk | contribs | block) moved Frauenliebe und -leben, Op.42 (Schumann, Robert) to Frauenliebe und leben, Op.42 (Schumann, Robert) Hi Perlnerd, I don't know the correct title of this work, but the title you chose can't be correct, because it's not even proper German. The previous title was at least in correct German, and it is also used by Wikipedia: Frauenliebe und -leben. In the PDF it is given as "Frauen-Liebe und Leben", which might be an older spelling variant. I think it either needs to be moved back to the previous/Wikipedia title, or to the title as given in the PDF. --Leonard Vertighel 07:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Deleted pagesHi Snailey. I notice you're restoring some pages that were recently deleted, such as Category:Kreutz, Emil and Category:Karlovitch, Medtner Nikolaï. Just wondering why that was? — P.davydov 22:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Vandalism- BmtHi, this is a kind of weird case of vandalism. This guy created himself as a composer, added a couple of works (two of which are already tagged), and then...blanked out his own category and work pages. Could you please block him or something at least until it's figured out why? KGill talk email 01:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed the "Navigation Boxes" template because it was creating a red link. Operalala 14:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC) Main Page titleI restored the Main Page title and set it to be the same as for the other pages. I know you didn't like the previous version, but deleting it altogether doesn't seem like a sensible solution to me. --Leonard Vertighel 19:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC) Japanese translationThanks for message to me. Yes, you can add my name to IMSLP:Internationalization: while I'd like to go at my own pace. I have translated IMSLP:Contributor Portal into IMSLP:Contributor Portal/ja, now I'm in the middle of the translating of Public domain/ja. I'll refer to your suggestion.--Supertchan 07:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC) Brahms Listening GuidesThanks! I'm working up from the bottom to add the links on guides that exist. I'm glad you like the links. Do you have any idea of the upload of the Peters edition of the songs is going to continue (from Variations Prototype at IU)? They break off after Op. 58, and Nerd08 seems to have gone AWOL. It would be nice for that upload to be completed. Hansenkd 05:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I meant that we already have his complete works, and Variations has some more desirable (for our not having them) scores.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 04:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC) Giles GingermintAre you the composer Scott Giles, or do you have his permission to post his work here? Otherwise, we will have to delete your submission, as it is not public domain. Sorry for the formailty.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 02:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC) Yes, I am the composer Scott Giles and I appreciate the vigilance. I'm ASCAP and this sort of concern on your part really is appreciated. By the way, I hardly know my way around these pages and couldn't get the email thing to work so I hope I'm not inconveniencing you or massively upsetting a protocol in contacting you back in this way. At any rate, thank you. SG Gingermint 20:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC) StarThanks for the Star!!--Supertchan 10:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
MsgImpropSubmiss?Hi, I'm curious why exactly you replaced one of my uses of this template with the code to the template itself? Was something wrong with it? KGill talk email 14:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Croatian translationAlright, thanks! Rosier 00:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC) Re:Projects
(Please reply on my talk page.) I mean that the title and all notes are in German. ClassicalComposers 01:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC) (Please reply on my talk page, and for further convenience, just add my talk page to your watchlist.) Peters Brahms songsHi, again, Snailey! I'd love to take on the project of finishing up the import of the Peters Brahms songs from Variations myself, but I can't find the directions on how to import. Any way you could help me? I could do the Dover/Gesamtausgabe too if Variations has it. This is where I'd like to start as an IMSLP contributor, and if successful, I have access to such things as the low-key editions of the songs from Peters (which Variations does not have), and much of the Breitkopf Gesamtausgabe (particularly volumes 20 and 21) that Dover never reprinted. I'd like to get a feel for uploading and importing, however, before I attempt my own scans. If there's any way you could help me (when you have the time--no rush!), that'd be fantastic. I'm still an IMSLP virgin, really. Hansenkd 19:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Well thanks for the uploads - and Jsnfm was certainly a good, experienced person to approach. The URL discrepancy is mainly an age thing, if I recall - something about two different servers, mirror server, etc...you could ask someone more in the know.
PD on Sämtliche Werke?One other question: Is the entire Breitkopf & Härtel Sämtliche Werke PD? I ask because I know that 1926/1927 is a very dicey time frame for PD issues. Dover reprinted many of the volumes with some exceptions. When they did the Serenades, they used an earlier edition, not the Complete Works, for example. The volumes from which Dover never reprinted are 4, 11, 18, 21, and 22. There were some Kalmus reprints (most out of print) for such volumes as 22. 21 was never touched by Dover, and would be of particular value here, as it contains the most obscure and difficult to obtain small choral works. I'd really like to do some things from it in the future, but wanted to be clear on PD, wondering if some volumes didn't fall there. I found it suspicious that Dover didn't use it for the Serenades, but I know that around the time they published it, Disney was trying some of their usual funny business with PD laws (that's why we seem so stuck around 1926, the year Mickey Mouse premiered--Disney keeps lobbying for extensions), so maybe they were scared? Some of the Dover reprints have recently gone out of print (most alarmingly, two volumes of the songs). So anyway, would scanning vol. 21 have PD issues? (I don't know if the score can fit on my scanner anyway, but it's worth a try.)--Hansenkd 23:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Finnish translation of main pageHey Perlnerd, I asked Carolus about adding the Finnish translated main page to the list of languages (Etusivu), and I wasn't sure whether it would be better to have the IMSLP-links in the translated page linking to the English translations of pages, or whether I should have them as red links, linking to the creation of the respective Finnish pages - so Carolus suggested I ask some other admins for their opinion :) (I am asking Peter, Daphnis, and you - I have asked the same question exactly to all of you) Let me know what you think - on a sidenote, my Finnish is sloppy to say the best, so we would have to find a native Finnish speaker to do the translations of the pages, as my translations of the titles might not be accurate or correct. -jujimufu 17:12, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Ignore my previous statement. Carolus is right about it promoting translation, so I say we leave it as such.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 22:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC) Peter and the WolfThe new typeset of the parts in no way invalidates the copyright (in USA and EU) on the work itself. Available (theoretically) in Canada and Asia only, [TB] for forseeable future. Carolus 01:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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Archive 6RachmaninoffSee the forum for my latest take on the copyright status, after discussion with pierre chepelov. I think a fair of titles are actually free in the EU thanks to the EU's application of RoST. Carolus 03:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it's fine. Aleko is being sold by Amazon worldwide. The work was first issued by Gutheil in 1892 or 1893. That's long before the sale to Edition Russe (1914) or Edition Russe's move to Berlin (ca.1920). Right now, I'm still tagging all Gutheil issues from 1919-1943 as protected in EU, including the revised version of Piano Concerto No.1. The full score wasn't issued until after his death by Muzgiz, so that doesn't hold for the EU either as he died a US citizen. The only possible case they can make for EU standing is for those works first issued by Edition Russe/Gutheil after they moved from Russia to Berlin. Carolus 04:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
It never ends! Great job of keeping up with the volume today, BTW. I think we had something like 140-150 items uploaded. Carolus 04:13, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Re: Google LogosI see. So I'll have to scan it myself... P.S.: Thank you for the Star! Regards from --Ralph Theo Misch 14:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
That would be a way to do it. -- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 14:22, 18 October 2009 (UTC) Tchaikovsky Military MarchHi Snailey. I notice you added the "TH" number to the title of the march. I can understand why, but unfortunately this causes a problem with the Amazon links further down the page. Amazon don't use the TH numbers, and so the work doesn't come up in their listings. Not that this piece is particularly well represented in the catalogues, but if the same were to happen with Romeo and Juliet, for example, then it could be a headache... — P.davydov 14:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Sämtliche Werke projectHey. Since the big Edwards reprint of vol. 21 was giving me fits, I've decided to take a different approach. My Dover reprints will allow me to get a feel for scanning scores, since I can do them directly (I need to figure out an optimal reduction protocol on an excellent copier for the Edwards reprints). I have access to the entire Sämtliche Werke and can complete it in its entirety (in theory, depends on how committed I am to the project). For now, I'm not going to re-scan anything that's here, although I'm not particularly fond of the reset titles and page numbers. So I'm going to gradually fill out the holes in opus number order. You'll see one for Op. 1 today. I think the Sämtliche Werke scores should always show up just below the Lübeck first editions on the work pages, and will work on that as well, even for those that already exist. Regarding the handwritten measure numbers, for some reason B & H included them on everything except the solo piano works and solo songs, so I added them to my scores (following their same protocol for first and second endings, i.e., the first bar of the second ending is the same measure number as the first bar of the first ending, etc.; note 87a at the bottom of p. 3--the previous bar at the end of the last line is 86a, while the next bar, which is the first of the second ending, is 86b--since the first ending only has two bars, the first measure on p. 4 is m. 88). They can be fiddled with during cleanup, or simply removed, but I thought they might be useful to some. For the most part, they should be quite clear.--Hansenkd 14:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Just make sure that it's in chronological order, as is our style.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 18:29, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
VerlagHey - this is all the text I think is related to the publisher: Verlag Gitarrefreund München. Nachdruck verboten, alle Rechte vorbehaiten. a bit below that: Berliner Musikalien Druckerei GmbH If this helps, this is from a collection (or periodical) called "Gitarristische Vereinigung, e.V. Sitz in München" (the volume I am looking at at the monent was published in 1915). It shouldn't be public domain: it was bought before 1923, and there are no editors mentioned anywhere (as far as I can tell). Even if they were, assuming they were 30 years old at the time of editing, they would have to be over 70 for the copyright to be still active in Canada, which is not a common case, I suspect. -jujimufu 21:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Go ahead...and take a look at KGill's talk.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 21:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Justin Taylor scoresYes, I have permission to post up his scores. You can contact him at info@justin-taylor.ca to confirm.
Paa Vandring, Op.15 (Sjögren, Emil)Hi, the problem seems to appear when a file name contains more than one successive whitespaces. This also happend to me yesterday while editing. The page is then somehow broken due to a invalid file entry. As temporary solution just move the image page as Carolus proposed and replace the space. I've posted this in the forum. Hobbypianist 18:21, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Composer Stubs without a death dateSee my note to Juji on this. Cases like Max Schulz (b.1885) make me leary wrt Canadian status. Highly unlikely to be free in EU, 50-50 in Canada. Carolus 01:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Brahms updateI uploaded a new version of the Op. 1 file that fixed the width issue (first page was wider than all the rest). Op. 2 is coming soon. It will also have the handwritten measure numbers, as will Op. 5, but beyond the piano sonatas, this won't happen. All the other piano works in the Sämtliche Werke have already been uploaded, and I don't intend to add the measure numbers to the solo songs. Speaking of the solo songs, I'm also working to complete the upload of the Peters high voice editions from Variations (and standardize the descriptions on the work pages). In addition, I'm helping Piupianissimo to finish up the low voice Peters editions by sending him scans to clean up. There's also a "middle edition" for volume 1 only (out of 4 volumes), which we will also add since some of the "middle" keys are the original ones (for example, Op. 19, No. 4 and even the Lullaby Op. 49, No. 4). With this and the addition of the scans from the Dover reprint of the song volumes from the Sämtliche Werke, the collection of Brahms song scores will end up being quite exhaustive. Eventually, we could also add the Peters editions of the duets and quartets. They don't have dates, but I'm pretty sure they are P.D. They don't show up in the Edition Peters page here, but I can give you plate numbers to verify PD status.--Hansenkd 06:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
FYI, I added the reprint info to Op. 1 as well after getting your message.--Hansenkd 17:30, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 18:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC) Giocoso09I placed the CopyVio template on his talk page, in hopes that the massive red © will get his attention. I suspect he is the composer, as it's very unusual for someone to upload a new work by a contemporary composer who is not well-known. I'll probably give him another couple of days to respond. Carolus 21:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Perla AndaluzaI'm not so sure the No.21 applies to the title, or if it's part of some sort of series issued by the publisher. No harm in leaving it this way until we find out someday. The way the title is laid out on the first page is odd, so it's hard to tell. Carolus 02:44, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
No.42,000I'm uploading the Eulenburg score for Bach's St. Matthew Passion, BWV 244 right now. It's around 22 MB so it will take a couple of minutes!! Carolus 04:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it's based on BGA with some nominal editing by Arnold Schering. Carolus 04:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Elgar is uploading now. It should take about 20 minutes - half hour, maybe less. Violin 2 part fir Falstaff has a bad first page. More to follow this week, especially Nielsen. Carolus 06:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
User pageThanks for editing my user page :) ClassicalComposers 04:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
My Tenth UploadHi. My tenth file was uploaded yesterday. Click here to see it :) ClassicalComposers 23:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
TypesetsI'm just curious. Many of the Mutopia files you uploaded show that the typesetter is Stelios Samelis. Is that you? ClassicalComposers 23:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
3 Pieces for Piano, Op.51 (Godard, Benjamin)Hi Perlner. Is there a way to place my recently uploaded piano piece Brésilienne elsewhere than in the arrangements because it is an original piece. Thanks.--Jean-Séb 07:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC) Lanterne Magique, Part I, Op.50 (Godard, Benjamin)Hi Perlner. I see that you added Mineola to the reprint mention and that the work has been classified in non PD - EU. I am not sure why. The scan is made on the reprint Dover Publications in New York, not Mineola, published in 1977. Apart from the page numbers (pp. 149-153), the reprint is an exact facsimile of the original Ditson 1906 edition that I also have (pp.115-119). Thus I do not see why it would not be PD in EU. If necessary, it would be easy to change the page numbers on my scan if that solves the problem.--Jean-Séb 07:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Access to the "emergency BB"Feldmahler told me to give you the access credentials to the emergency BB I created at http://forums.cpdl.org/imslp . I have just sent them via the "Email this user" function on the toolbar, please contact me if you don't receive them. Max a.k.a. --Choralia 20:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC) BarnstarVery much appreciated!! Eric 02:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
NielsenUploading as I write this. Have fun. Carolus 06:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
But thanks is better expressed with g minor ;)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 07:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC) |
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Archive 7Les TroyensJust confirming that I will have a copy of both scores (Kalmus No.516, 517) in my hands before long. I found them for 22.00 a copy in pristine condition. Carolus 23:42, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
SmartScanUh... I couldn't find that under any menu. My version is Finale 2010, FYI. ClassicalComposers 00:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Recorder booksWould you mind giving your opinion on this? (At least, the one for which the link to a scan of the title page is given.) Probably a critical edition (Hofmeister, ed. Paul Donath), published 1965, Heft II published 1968. Thanks, KGill talk email 18:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
PartsI see I didn't even have to tell you..... Carolus 05:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
P.S. I was not expecting Gurre-Lieder, and I couldn't resist...but did it have to be 34 files??-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 05:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC) I broke them up a bit, but I think it makes them a lot more manageable - especially for anyone with dialup. It's an enormous piece, nearly the size of an opera in terms of the sheer number of pages involved. Well, at least there's no longer an excuse for not performing it! Carolus 05:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Rachmaninoff Piano ConcertosSorry to say this, but I could sort of tell, from what you posted on the template's talk page, that you weren't very happy. Is it because of annoyance? Or an edit conflict? ClassicalComposers 04:13, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Glad I could help. Page deleted. :)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 04:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
SolerPlease see my reply at my talk page. ClassicalComposers 23:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Newmessages templateDear Perlnerd666, I edited your template so that it looks like the one on Wikipedia; I hope you don't mind. Currently, it looks like this: I created a redirect page, Template:Nm, to easier use the template. Spread the news! Increase the template's usage! ClassicalComposers 04:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Actually...the problem is that it only works for userpages now...and it most certainly is useful for a whole host of things. Perhaps even letting the user just add the link would be better - then we could say that we have new messages on the forums.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 01:30, 23 December 2009 (UTC) Featured scoresHi Snailey. I saw your comment in the forum thread about the featured scores, but didn't realise what you meant (I thought you were talking about the tagging!). I gather Philip's taken this job on now, but apologies for the misunderstanding — P.davydov 10:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Slow Part SubmissionSorry about the slow submission (I needed to tend to something for a few minutes after uploading the parts). If I submit parts just be patient. I will reorganize the page or let someone know that I wasn't able to get to it. In any case how much is left to do? I don't see any of the Mozart/Haydn on the FTP server yet (and others like Elijah, Op.70 (Mendelssohn, Felix)). Thanks! Horndude77 18:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
CRCopyright review's quite fast today, don't you agree? I mean, I uploaded a new file, and less than a minute later, poof! The [B] tag's already been removed. ClassicalComposers 01:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Almost at 47,000 Scores!-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 01:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC) Userbox Project - 15 of them ready to useIMSLP:Userboxes ClassicalComposers 17:20, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
How do you delete files from FTP?Sorry if this is a really stupid question- after uploading files from the FTP to IMSLP, how are you supposed to remove the directory? I just submitted the parts to the overture of Benvenuto Cellini, and it doesn't look like it removes them automatically or anything... KGill talk email 17:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Great job! Good to have someone else on board (Carolus will be refilling the FTP soon.) I'll go ahead and get rid of those for you.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 20:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
G. Henle - Beethoven's SonatasI was wondering if I could upload scans of Beethoven's sonatas - published by G. Henle in 1980 (a few days short of 30 years ago). ClassicalComposers 21:00, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Replacing some part filesWe should be replacing all parts from Romanov76110. They aren't properly compressed and sometimes cut off the top of the composer's name (for example see Symphonic Variations, Op.78 (Dvořák, Antonín)). I've been keeping that user name as the contributor but uploading a new file. Since many of the files have been deleted from the FTP server I can't replace some of these files. I think we should instead just move them to a completed folder or something like that until the project is finished. Let me know what you think when you get back. Thanks! Horndude77 23:49, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Welcome back!I'm glad you're back! There are still many administrative tasks (i.e. maintainence) around here. I've tagged quite a few pages for deletion (I hope you'll understand) and a set of files I split from an already-existant file have been tagged [B] all day. I joined the Categorization project by P.davydov, but I still don't really get it. I mean, where do you "tag" the pages? I hope you'll be able to provide me a little more information on that. Thanks! Now get back to work! <-- just kidding :) ClassicalComposers 03:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
21:)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 05:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
@PML. Thanks, and I couldn't find 21 that were PD everywhere, so I threw a disclaimer on 4 - and we all love the Sibelius... Le nozze di Figaro, K492Should we delete the upload by Resnek? It is a exact duplicate of the one submitted by homerdundas. ClassicalComposers 02:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey! I didn't scan those parts! Try not to disseminate falsehoods ;)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 02:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC) K413I found the First Edition of Mozart's K413 concerto — it is not a score; rather, it is a set of parts. Do you suppose I should split the file and upload it as separate parts? ClassicalComposers 03:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. But, it's more convenient to split. I say split...parts are usually not for everyone to play all of them at once ;)...-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 13:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC) CompositionsAre you willing to post your compositions here? :) ClassicalComposers 17:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Choral symphoniesDon’t forget to add the language tag for the text (I’ve added the ones for the Liszt symphonies). Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk 08:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I forgot about that until I had to get off >.<-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 15:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC) TaggingWow Snailey, you're a fast worker! Thanks for taking on that not-very-interesting job. BTW, I know you hate red links, but we're not quite ready to creating the new category listings just yet. Some (like "For Orchestra") might yet be replaced at this stage. Keep up the good work though :-) — P.davydov 16:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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Archive 8Grieg's Holberg Suite partsHi Perlnerd. I was wondering, why did you tag the orchestral parts of Grieg's Holberg Suite (#17680 to #17684) with {{OrchPartsProj}} while they (obviously) do not come from this source ? Best regards and happy new year, --Matthieu 07:30, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Vocal worksHi Snailey. Thanks for all your efforts with the tagging. Just checking whether you knew about including all the soloists in the vocal works where the range is known (so "sop alt ten bass" instead of "4vv")? It came up on the project discussion page yesterday, but you might not have seen the memo :-) — P.davydov 18:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC) CategoriesHello again. Just to ask again if you could resist the impulse to create new categories, like the one for works featuring the cello? They've been left red for a reason, as there's behind-the-scenes stuff going on :-) Thanks — P.davydov 20:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Tanathos (Santos Carrión, Julián)Hi Perlnerd, you marked these !N – have you been in touch with the contributor (who presumably is related to the deceased composer) to check he has permission? I assumed at first you had, and marked a whole load of new scores, but then I couldn't find any trace of a "yes I have permission". (It looks like a few of his files were deleted because someone jumped the opposite direction to you.) Regards, PML = Phi1ip 04:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 19:45, 9 January 2010 (UTC) Tagging ProjectThis has gone horribly. P.davydov already dismissed me (after 3 hours of service), and I'm pending a reply from him. :( ClassicalComposers 21:52, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Haydn FEHi. I just managed to dig out a FE scan of Haydn's Piano Sonatas 40-42. Do you suppose I should keep the covers or remove them? You see, I have to split the file into 3 to upload to the corresponding page, and it would be awkward for one to have a cover but for the others to not. Thanks, ClassicalComposers 23:10, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Exactly. Nice job digging! -- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 02:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC) Beethoven SonatasDear Perlnerd666, I see that you have decided to participate in the expansion of the page. That is a good thing, but please leave the difficulty section to me; I'll try to figure it out. :) Also, would you mind removing all of the "major"s in the major key sonatas? Oh, and BTW, No.24 is F♯ major, not F♯ minor. And, why did you use "&ndpb;" (or something like that) instead of a space? Thanks, ClassicalComposers 01:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The nbsp comes from the template...don't know why....-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 01:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The problem is that it would be challenged...Bülow is very authoritative (or he would kill you if he heard that he wasn't ;), and thus can be used. The nicknames are from the NavBox - thus WikiPedia - and I have, in fact, seen and used all of them, except, interestingly enough, the F♯ Min/ajor sonata's ;)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 01:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Nevermind then. Nice page! I'll add it to beethoven.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 01:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Ooooh....and I thought having only looked through about 4 was enough to disqualify me ;)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 02:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I knew about that, and that's why I changed the wording to "the 32 Piano Sonatas" - I'd say it's probably "better" this way, even.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 02:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Compositions
I need to start by finding a scanner to borrow.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 03:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't do three-stave piano, different key/time signatures, and other things (feathered staves) on those. And this is more fun.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 04:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
It's fine. Really. Feathered staves....is the equivalent of Carter's arrow "accelerando" notation. And there is ssssssuuuuuuuch a point to the time signatures....-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 04:26, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
DeletionHi. Take a look at Category:IMSLP:Articles for Deletion and delete the pages. Thanks! ClassicalComposers 02:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
UserboxesThanks... I would have procrastinated until n years later... ClassicalComposers 02:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
TaggingJust a note to thank you for your sterling work on the sonatas, symphonies, and now the piano pieces (which I've begun chipping away at as well). If it's any consolation the numbers shown as remaining in the category intersects are unreliable over 200 (i.e. usually greatly over-estimated), so it's not really as bad as it looks :-) — P.davydov 16:24, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Featured scoresHi Snailey. I was just about to update the featured scores again today when I noticed you'd already done it. Does this mean you're back at the helm? :-) — P.davydov 07:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Your user pageHmm... I think the "plainlinks" is the issue. I tried that once, but it didn't work. Add "plainlinks" only around the external links; or else, it'll make everything on the side appear smaller (as your user page does). :) ClassicalComposers 00:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 17:23, 28 January 2010 (UTC) The logs that I've been trying so hard to catch up with but finally decided to give upWould you mind helping me keep up with my manually-updated upload log and page creation log? Start by updating all entries, if you would please. And how do you make your userboxes look so good anyway? (^_^) Thanks, ClassicalComposers 00:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I'm really just not motivated to help...it's not as if I have any shortage of projects on which to work, but when I have some downtime I might update. Roger-Ducasse - Au jardin du Marguerite full scoreAny reason why you changed the tag for the US to "checked" for this file? Daphnis 19:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Changed. Daphnis 19:29, 20 January 2010 (UTC) VivaldiHi, Can you find and fix the page for Vivaldi's Concerto for Violin, 2 Trumpets (Horns), 2 Oboes and Basson in F major, RV 574? It seems to have a fatal error and I have to leave now. Bocaccio created the page originally, but it got caught in the crossfire in the fight with ClassicalComposers. Thanks, Carolus 20:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Instrumentation listsHello Snailey. I hope you'd know that I would never just delete a whole set of pages like that (see my response on the forum) — P.davydov 06:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Heads upHi Snailey. Carolus has flagged up a possible problem. Could you take a look at the section with this title on my talk page and decide whether any action is necessary? I'd rather not get involved in another battle right now :-) Thanks — P.davydov 18:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC) HerveloisI was not sure. Than I searched for Stutschewsky at IMSLP - and found him: http://imslp.org/wiki/Cello_Sonata,_G.4,_A_major_(Boccherini,_Luigi). It's a trial - please delete my contribution in the case of the possibility of any trouble. Regards from --Ralph Theo Misch 00:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I've notified Carolus...watch his talk for details if you're interested ;)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 00:31, 2 February 2010 (UTC) It wasn't a game (tag?) at all. But you are right: It was thoughtless - sorry! --Ralph Theo Misch 00:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Oops...I forget sometimes that you're not a native speaker (that's a compliment!)..."tag" in this case meaning a label affixed to something to provide information (OED)...in this case, copyright status.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 00:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I've read Carolus' talk, but I didn't understand everything. Perhaps I'll do tomorrow. Good night, --Ralph Theo Misch 01:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Mazurka, Op.7 No.5 and Valse, Op.70 No.1Hey Snailey (Perlnerd666), the Mazurka, Op.7 No.5 and Valse, Op.70 No.1. are not my typeset, it is my friend's. The files are scan's that I took from his typeset. Luciosilla 12:18, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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Archive 9Tagging operasHi Snailey. I've just had to alter your tag for La Clemenza di Tito to "vv ch orch", as you forgot about the chorus (and they don't like that) :-) BTW, if there are two sopranos or two mezzo-sopranos involved, then you can use "2sop" and "2 mez", as with orchestral instruments. With operas it's sometimes safer to use "vv" to stand for all the voices, just in case the cast lists omit out any of the minor roles (as they often do). Thanks — P.davydov 23:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
HelloHi Perlnerd, long time no see! I see you have a lot of work both copyright reviewing and tagging... I just found out that the tags cannot be in random order as they won't be detected properly and was about to change my trial tag, but you were there first. see you Peter talk 17:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
"Jede Woche Musik" Wochenschrift des Berliner TageblattsHi Perlnerd, I just talked to Ralph Theo Misch who is helping me uploading some new files. We wonder why most of them are still totally blocked, for example this one http://imslp.org/wiki/Consolations,_S.172_(Liszt,_Franz) Is it possibly because of the publisher "Berliner Tageblatt"? --Anita Beimert 19:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello Perlnerd,
By reading my last sentence again, I'm not sure how it sounds to a native speaker. What I wanted to say is: Missing Englishhorn parts: Bach Christmas OratoryIn part 2 of the Christmas Oratory, there should be two additional Englishhorn (Oboe da caccia) parts, which are missing from the downloaded set. These are indepedent parts, different from the sometimes printed eh as alternative to ob damore. Altogether there are 4 oboe + eh players in part 2. Are these parts missing from the OMCL set? (I have the Breitkopf Eh II, but Eh I only in the 1960 Bärenreiter edition, I assume still under TB...)--Kalliwoda 21:50, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Symphony, Wq.183/1 (H.663) (Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel)"Hi Snailey. Why did you revert my correction to this page? The arrangement heading has to read "Piano 4 hands" and not "Piano Four hands" so that it can be recognised by the autotagger — P.davydov 10:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Dohnanyi variationsHi Snailey. Shouldn't it be "nursery song", rather than rhyme? Or you could use the original title "Variationen über ein Kinderlied" — P.davydov 21:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Czerny, Op.33Hi Perlnerd, I have restored the page. It falls under the cursed [TB] but it is PD in Canada (even as ed. princeps). Regards, Hobbypianist 19:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I see. Actually, I thought the system would recognize it and show as U/U/U again after restoring. Thanks. Hobbypianist 19:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Re: LisztYes, you're right: Who've found Christus should upload Him ;-) I'll see tomorrow. Best wishes! - --Ralph Theo Misch 00:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC) 50%That's excellent news! We could really do with a complete list like this one to replace the old "Work Genres" page. It turned out to be a nightmare to maintain manually, and although Feldmahler says he can generate one automatically, he won't have time to work on that until May. Should we keep the old one until then, I wonder? But we can add links to the walker from the composer pages, which I'll get onto this weekend... — P.davydov 10:49, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Not that I can tell...mostly you, me Carolus, Matthieu, Hobbypianist, KGill, PML and Daphnis admin-wise, and the occasional Feldmahler...-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 15:03, 23 March 2010 (UTC) bachdigitalHello Perlnerd666,
Ok :) --Ralph Theo Misch 00:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC) Re: DeletionThanks for the tip! --Ralph Theo Misch 20:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
JSBWell I've made a start, but it'll probably take a while. Feel free to chip in :-) — P.davydov 22:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Duplicated pageI can assure you that there is no duplication in my work.
Friend of yours?? Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk 04:00, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Suite No.2, Op.27 (Boëllmann, Léon)Two questions:
Thanks, KGill talk email 18:31, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
BeethovenI believe Beethoven was more of a Romantic composer than a Classical one. I can see, however, that his compositions before 1803 should be considered Classical in style, but not those from Beethoven's 3rd symphony and after, which are more Romantic than anything in style. Therefore, marking pieces composed from the 3rd symphony and after as Classical in style is inaccurate. And your reverts of my edits are worthless. Where in your policy does it say that Beethoven should uncompromisingly be marked as a Classical era composer? Classicalfan2 14:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Fonds Philidor on BNF & VersaillesHi Chat Noir, I see upstair there was electricity on the air!! Thank you for information: BNF Template. I just want to inform you that I'll try to gradually transfer and reference here all score from the whole fonds Philidor. But it's a long work and takes me hours and hours (many scores can be catched only page by page and there is many compilations to reattribued) but it's the very major source about French baroque..So If you see or know others contributors working on this Philidor fonds can you tell me who to coordonate?.. I'll even contact Bassani.. Thanks .. Squin 29 April 2010
OOhhh, I see just now my Sibley medal!! Thanks.. Bassani is ok, so we will manage that. Salut. Amandariz - BachHave you looked at these? The edition he did for Canata No.9, for example, consists of prefaces, scores and parts for Nos.1 and 9 only (the choruses). Given the rather eccentric nature of these, I am wondering if the complete volumes of his work would be best to list under Amandariz, perhaps with excerpts appearing on the regular Bach pages. It would take a lot of work to split out individual numbers, the parts from the scores, etc. Carolus 19:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I'll discuss w/Davydov. We have the Merton project (about 1300 titles) coming up as soon as Feldmahler is done with Finals. Also, Daphnis will soon have the latest DVDs for the OMCDR series (full scores and Wagner operas) so that phase 2 of the Orchestral Music project can commence. Carolus 19:56, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Pronunciation of composer namesHello Snailey, I think, that could be interesting: [3].Regards, --Ralph Theo Misch 00:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Access to the emergency BBIt seems that the IMSLP BB is down. The emergency BB that I created in November 2009 is now available at http://www.imslp.eu (or simply http://imslp.eu) . Administrator's username and password are the same as in November. Max (Choralia 04:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC))
I don't know what the cause of the crash...maybe DDOS. Perhaps after 5 days-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 15:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC) |
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Archive 10Rienzi OvertureThe full score has "Orchestra Musician's CD-ROM Library" in the LH bottom corner. Carolus 19:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Sent.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 19:55, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for the publisher information-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 22:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
The overture is missing a couple of pages towards the end (23 bars according to the VS), unfortunately this seems to be a mistake by the original scanners of the work. Philip Legge @ © talk 04:34, 5 June 2010 (UTC) Bach CantatasIt's a good thing you're going at a "snail's pace" on these! the vocal score situation is "complicated." CDSM (which is where bh2000 got the vocal scores from) scanned Kalmus reprints of all of the Cantata vocal scores. Kalmus, who started reprinting the vocal scores as far back as the 1930s, naturally never bothered to say what they were reprinting. Breitkopf issued vocal scores for nearly all of the cantatas between 1890 and 1896, with piano reductions by Bernhard Todt, in German (or Latin) only. Peters issued series of about 115 vocal scores starting in the 1870s, with piano reductions by Gustav Rösler, also in German (or Latin) only. Starting around 1930, Breitkopf issued a new series of vocal scores (re-engraved usually) supposedly with reductions by Günter Raphael (1903-1960), in German plus English and French. Everything engraved in Leipzig was probably done in Röder's giant music factory, so it's a real challenge to figure what is what. Carolus 01:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification. Could you just change the links since you've noticed this? It's not too much to ask, I hope. I'll notify you (and have P.Davydov do the same) when we split more. Thanks again-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 16:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Issues with new versions of Op. 106, Nos. 1-2Hi. Sorry to bug you. I uploaded versions of the high voice editions for Op. 106 and Op. 121, culled from the Variations Project. I found, after uploading them, that I had messed up the pdf conversions on all 9 files by not unchecking the "fit to page" box. I fixed all the files on my hard drive, then uploaded the new versions. This worked great for all of Op. 121 and Nos. 3-5 of Op. 106, but for some reason, Op. 106, Nos. 1-2 are having issues displaying. It's weird. The new versions of the files are showing up when I click on the archives for various reverts, but they are having problems displaying from the actual upload links, and No. 1 is even saying it is damaged (which I know is not true--you can look at it perfectly fine in the revert archives). If you can fix this, I'd be grateful. It looks like the copyright review has not been done for the new versions on either opus. Again, sorry for the bother. I can say categorically that there is nothing intrinsically wrong with the two revised files. Something is going wrong with the upload of the new versions. You can look at all the reverts on these files, and they show up fine--but when I try to make these "good" versions current, the "current" version still won't display.--Hansenkd 03:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
BNF TemplateHi Chat Noir, I use to indicate the exacts scores references on the scanner field - Boccaccio told me in juanary "Maybe it would be nice if in future uploads you could provide a link to the precise webpage of the work and not just to the gallica main page" - I see you've modified my lasts uploads to put only the template F-Pn but I dont understand why - Do you prefer I do that now ? - Squin - 8 June 2010
I don't think that bandwith is a concern. Talk to KGill about the modifications (he made the templates), and if he doesn't know how, I'll do it.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 21:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Oops! Thanks-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 02:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC) Mozart - K.314Did you receive any word from the uploader Flauta about this? It looked to me like they were just dumping a typeset by someone else here. Carolus 03:24, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Danaliszt projectHi Perlnerd666 or Snailey :P I just wanted to say that the Dana Ruth project is up running again if you're still interested. --Funper 20:31, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Featured: Rachmaninoff's Vespers, Op.37Hi, I'm just curious why a work by Rachmaninov appears in the featured scores list. Of course, I really love his works :) but I'm sure they're not PD in the EU and other 70+ countries, even as urtext. Hobbypianist 16:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Here's the odd thing: Composers who died before 1953 are PD in Russia, which is where the work was composed and first published. Under the EU's Rule of the Shorter Term, all works from before 1918 would theoretically be free in the EU (since their country of origin is Russia) - unless there is a standing bilateral treaty or some other legal reason which over-rides the Rule of the Shorter Term. The Russian law went from 50pma to 70pma in 2003 and was not retroactive, though there are some composers (perhaps Rachmaninov is one?) who were denounced by the Soviet regime and only "rehabilitated" after its fall in 1991 who are eligible for additional protection under the Russian law. Since Muzgiz certainly published his works, it strikes me that he was not on the blacklist of composers declared to be "non-persons." I have not yet consistently tagged his works, partly because I am really not very certain about what his status actually is in the EU - and I'm not willing to simply take Boosey & Hawkes' word for it (since they have a vested interest in claiming all are protected for 70pma). Carolus 21:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC) QuezadaNo more uploads to be allowed form him pending resolution of extremely serious issue. Carolus 01:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Got it. Cheers-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 01:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC) MWGI gather you sorted it out then? :-) If you can keep in mind that with the tags it's essential to get the instruments in a consistent order, so it's "va pf" rather than "pf va", and "sop org str" instead of "sop str org". And as you've probably found already, the link at the top of MWG to the ParserInfo page will highlight any duplicates, missing tags, or (gulp) "Fatal Errors" — P.davydov 08:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
BarnstarDidn't notice it until now. Thanks! :) --Funper 03:37, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Excellent! Thank PML for his great work with those templates (he is quite adept at WikiML; any tricks you see me use are his!)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 21:03, 21 June 2010 (UTC) Reference systemHi, I thought we could discuss this. First, do we have one already available that I don't know of? :P I do try to detail sources but in a somewhat amateurish way, see e.g. Andantino pour Emile et Charlotte Loudon, S.163a (Liszt, Franz). If not, it would really be needed. Perhaps a neat one like that of Wikipedia. In fact, it mustn't be to hard to borrow it from there. What do you think? --Funper 23:43, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Edition SilvertrustSilvertrust is the owner's surname- it's Silvertrust, not Silver Trust :) Eric 00:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Recent additions pagesHallo, since you seem to have redesigned the recent additions pages - they again end after just a few hours worth of entries, the "more" button cannot be found! and that is for both the page with work titles and the page "recent additions finder" This needs to be fixed. Even better would be a possibility to intersect recent additions with the category walker...--Kalliwoda 05:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Sorry, didn't see the posts in the forums--Kalliwoda 05:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC) IMSLP:Userboxes/Music/Composers......will have to be split. We’re losing the code towards the bottom of the page, because there are over 100 items and Wikimedia doesn’t like so many "expensive parser calls". The obvious ones to split off are "Romantic" (about 30 or so composers) and "20th Century" (over 30). Cheers Philip Legge @ © talk 23:08, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Yep. I'm just more interested in composers...:)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank KGill as well, of course :)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
And your epochs are there too now :)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:56, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
At least I think that we won't get over 100 epochs :)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 00:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC) Short questionHi Perlnerd, maybe you're better informed and up-to-date... Before starting a new thread in the forums I wanted to ask here first :) Do you happen to know why the page counter doesn't appear any more at the bottom of the wiki pages? As far as I remember it was still there about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Hobbypianist 18:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Fauré: PénélopeI was under the impression works published before 1923 are public domain in the United States regardless of authorship. Am I wrong on that? Every source I have looked into lists all works published before 1923 as public domain with no conditions. Massenetique 23:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes indeed. Yet again we learn that just because it is available online does not mean that it should be.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC) New templatesYou might find these handy: Template:LinkWork and Template:LinkWorkN. It saves a bit of typing anyway... — P.davydov 20:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Mazurkas, Op.50 (Szymanowski, Karol)Hi, the 1954 edition, aside from being renewed in the US, appears to contain fingerings original to Drzewiecki - they don't appear in the original edition. Should it be deleted? Thanks, KGill talk email 14:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Done. Busy today!-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 14:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I asked Carolus :). On the whole, I think that's right-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 15:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Question about the comment on printing of the parts for LIber Motettum on Musica Divina PageHello, Perlnerd666, thanks for your message! I've begun this way. Is it OK? - I'll go on later this night. Regards from --Ralph Theo Misch 18:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the message on Feldmahler's pageUmm... well I just need all files listed under David Hamlin removed, or at least the folders removed so i can redo it with each file having its own listing, atm I've got listings like "Trio and 2 short piano pieces Op.15" which is annoying me. Avianne 20:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC) So do you need new pages? Also, you can replace the files that are currently there by going to their page and clicking "upload new version"-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 20:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
It's fine.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 20:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
No problem!-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 22:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC) Well I've gotten everything worked out mostly, I need to title of the Sonata for 2 Pianos No.1 Op.14 fixed to Sonata for 2 Pianos No.1 In E-Flat Minor Op.14 I altered it under edit but idk if it will fix that in the main page. Avianne 22:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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Archive 11Naming ErrorHeys I sorta typed D Minor in for the Rondo-Minuet In D Major Op.15 No.2 on my page (David Hamlin) Could you fix that? Avianne 16:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about this, I hit enter before i realized the Op.11 is missing from the Sinfonia No.1 i just uploaded... :( Avianne 16:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the help with this stuff, it doesn't seem to like me lol... I need to add "major" after "A" in Minuet In A Op.10 it should be Minuet in A major Op.10 Avianne 02:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC) Nevermind, found that Move button and got it fixed... Avianne 02:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
ReThat's definitely true. I have undone that accident.
Gregorian ChantDear Perlnerd666, I've read your and PML's discussion on Early Music and saw 'Complete Gregorian Chant' at your user page. Indeed we have only the (hypothetical) melodies, but not the rhythm, the neumes. They are as important as the tones. At least, we need some of the most important of the earliest manuscripts as Cantatorium St. Gallen, Stiftsbibliothek, Cod. Sang. 359. But I'm worried about that. What do you think? Thanks and regards from --Ralph Theo Misch 00:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
OK — I'll ask him tomorrow. Thanks for your quick reply! --Ralph Theo Misch 00:24, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Then go ahead and submit! Cheers-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 00:34, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Ship ahoy! - Tomorrow. Cheers --Ralph Theo Misch 00:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Plenty of people would want it! PML and I for starters-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 00:59, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 21:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC) AwardsThanks very very much!! Eric 23:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
ChoralvorspielThanks!! (again :) ) Eric 03:39, 8 August 2010 (UTC) Cantatas, BWV 21-30 (Bach, Johann Sebastian)Now that Liszt is more or less done, I've made a start on separating the rest of the Bach cantatas. If I create the pages and move the files, would you be OK to fill in the work information, consulting your vast library of sources? :-) — P.davydov 16:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Vis Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis, BWV 21 (Bach, Johann Sebastian) for an example of why (maybe I should start writing program notes :P). Although that might be because this is one of my favorite Bach cantatas...
OK. I'm putting in instrumentation too, btw, so you could probably just change the tags.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 19:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC) Re: IMSLP:Maintenance/WorklistsOn my talk page. --Leonard Vertighel 15:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
QuezadaAgainst my better judgment I have attempted to see if I can answer his/her question, though I don't know the details and the best answer I can give is Read The Manual. Eric 23:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok :) Eric 23:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC) RecordingsHi! Do we already have recordings from here? I think those files with a picture of a single-records are full performances (of an aria etc.), the other sound files are only samples. Cheers --Ralph Theo Misch 23:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Spoken too soon - I fear most performers are too young for US CR - I'll try next days... --Ralph Theo Misch 00:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC) Copyright reviewingWe seem to be the only two reviewers around at the moment :-( I've been ploughing through the list for the last 4 hours or so, and have managed to whittle it down to 60, but new ones are coming in almost as fast as I can tag them. I'll have to take a break now, but hope to be back in a couple of hours... — P.davydov 12:10, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm happy to help out during busy periods, but I didn't know there was a backlog. I just happened to notice that some new works had been tagged for the categorization project but still hadn't been copyright reviewed after a couple of days. Maybe the other 12 copyright reviewers, like me, assume that with such a big team 'someone else will do it', and we need a gentle nudge from time to time :-) — P.davydov 16:01, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for helping out, Davydov (especially with all of your other projects - you really do an amazing amount of work). A couple things: you tagged some files as, for instance, V/V/2118 (i.e. more than 100 years to go for the EU). This should actually be 2018 (or whatever the corresponding year is) - 1947 + 70 years = 2018 :-) Also, if something looks like it was engraved ca.1820 or a similarly ancient date, the tag will be V/V/V even if we have no idea what the authors' dates are (I noticed you tagged at least one of these as C/V/C - we can pretty safely assume that no one lives to be more than 140 years old). Thanks, KGill talk email 19:48, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Replacing fileI need to replace the Minuet in A Op.10, I realized the version online was missing the credit at the bottom of the page. When i uploaded a new version it didn't fix this. Avianne 21:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Well it seems to think that the new file and the old one are identical so its not replacing the old one... gives me some error/warning about files having identical IDs... Avianne 23:12, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Only change is I added my copyright (Just year and Name) at the bottom, I forgot to when i uploaded the first time. Avianne 02:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks got that done, now its just waiting for the usual review Avianne 21:28, 18 August 2010 (UTC) DeletionNot having the handy deletion tool, there is a file which is to my knowledge superfluous. Cleaning up some things on Hummel's category page (splitting his piano trios, etc) I ran across a duplicate: http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Trio_No.1,_Op.12_(Hummel,_Johann_Nepomuk) I merged it so there would only be one work page with this title, so I think it should just be deleted. Op.83 will need to eventually be deleted, too, as there will end up being a duplicate. http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Trio,_Op.83,_E_major_(Hummel,_Johann_Nepomuk) .I think I'm right, but could be mistaken. Thanks, BKhon 03:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Duplicate PageHi! I just noticed the recently created page Capriccio for viola (Vieuxtemps, Henri) corresponds to the previously existing page Capriccio 'Hommage à Paganini', Op.55 (Vieuxtemps, Henri). I am certain the new file is a recent typeset for the same piece, and just thought you would like to know. Best regards, Wurger
Hey, if people do it with renaissance music, why not with Vieuxtemps? :) Thanks both of you-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 19:27, 16 August 2010 (UTC) DebussyI was wondering about that too. (I'm usually more careful than that re Sibley dates. It seemed possible to me that the correction process on the proofs took two years before they were finally in publishable state, possible though doubtful, and even now I can't find a single online source that contains a phrase such as "Debussy began work on l'Après-midi... around... ". I have a book here that if I can find it might help with that actually- recollections of Debussy with a timeline of his life and work- anyway I don't really doubt the work took him less than a year to write :) Eric 20:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC) 5 Poems, Op.27 (Prokofiev, Sergei)Hi, I saw that you tagged this V*/C*/24*, but the score includes text by Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966), so I think it would actually be 17*/C*/37*. Thanks, KGill talk email 14:52, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
RaffHi Snailey. It's OK, I've got this one :-)
FYITemplate:ULB - wasn't sure if you saw that I made this yesterday (principally for Boccaccio's uploads). KGill talk email 14:40, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
StarThanks again cheers and much appreciated! :):):) Eric 00:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
saving the k.287 pageHi, thanks for saving the page. When I tried to reverse my edits, the page was slowly being lost. No idea what happened, only trying to remove .pdf link to violin 2, whose file is incorrect. I will leave it alone now. Thanks, --Fred114 02:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Just Thank youHello!
I've realised by chance that I had been given the IMSLP star —I had'nt checked it for ages!— and it was a nice surprise.
I don't know what did it happen with that Teaser-123... exactly, but I don't care much about it; the thing is that you decided I deserved that star and I must be very grateful to you for it.
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Archive 12tagging by categoriesHello,I am new in wiki rules, where is list of designated team for category editing? or what should I do next time when I want to add category to score?
forumsYes- thanks :)! Eric 02:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC) RationaleHi Perl, what's the rationale of the following change in protection level? 23:00, 24 February 2009 Perlnerd666 (Talk | contribs | block) changed protection level for "IMSLP:Community Projects" ([edit=sysop:move=sysop]) --Funper 03:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Tag countHi Snailey. The category walker reports 4965 works left to tag out of 28979, which is about 17% rather than the 7% you calculated. Ah well :-( — P.davydov 15:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
archivingGot it - thanks much again and cheers :) ! Eric 02:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
AwardMany thanks, so long as I can accept the award on behalf of the whole tagging tesm :-) — P.davydov 05:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Template:MboxHi Snailey. I'm attempting to create this template to look like the one on Wikipedia, but it's a bit too complicated for me! I know you're good at this sort of thing, and wondered if you could help? — P.davydov 12:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
It would seem that much of the formatting is CSS (for the table) built into wikipedia's common file or something...-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 14:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
I think I can do that.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 14:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
That's perfect!! Thank you!! — P.davydov 14:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but when the text wraps over more than one line the formatting breaks down, like this. I can't find any obvious fixes on Wikipedia. Have you any suggestions? — P.davydov 12:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
<div style="padding:0.25em; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; background:rgb(245,245,245) url(Ambox_notice.png) no-repeat;
min-height:40px; padding-left:44px; width:80%; border:1px solid #a3bfb1">{{{1}}}</div>
Thanks for trying.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you!-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 14:41, 26 September 2010 (UTC) Journal ForumOut of curiosity, why am I not a forum moderator for the IMSLP journal anymore? It does make sense that I should be, since I helped found the journal. Philidor isn't a moderator for the forum either, and he should be (IMHO). He's shown fantastic work. I don't really see why the moderators need to be standardized. With kind regards, BKhon 01:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I had both you and Philidor as the moderators...strange...anyways this is fine. Vivaldi does occasionally visit, but actually Yagan, Kcleung, and Vivaldi all seem to be kind of rare lately...perhaps you could broach the issue on the moderation forum...-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 02:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
I went ahead and changed it. It looks like Philidor accidentally made the Journal forum like the rest of them, and thus copied the moderators.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 20:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC) Stupid mistakesThanks for your revisions, but when I make a mistake so obvious I always catch it, so no need to waste your time fixing my lack of carefulness :). Thanks, BKhon 03:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
RoSTIn connection with the Rule of the Shorter Term I've been wondering- I see pages like 12 Etudes, Op.8 (Scriabin, Alexander) and think is there a RoST rule in Canada also? (Either the files edited by Milstein are not permissible, or they are permissible because of the combination of some form of RoST rule and the copyright situation in Russia in 1981. I'm confused in the latter case - but I'm not a copyright reviewer anyway, just interested in this sort of thing when I see it. Anyhow, thanks again for all, and have a great week! Eric 06:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! Eric 14:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC) KeysThanks for adding lots of information! One thing to keep in mind though: I noticed you wrote "b flat". Even though, in a musically theoretical sense, "b minor" makes sense (lowercase b symbolizing minor), it should really be "B minor", according to rules of standardization, and what's generally done. Makes for a cleaner site. Thanks, BKhon 02:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
OK. If you could write up a list of all the things that I'll need to correct (periods at the end of sentences for starters. Italics for incipits), I'll do that when I'm done.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
1). Careful with alternate page titles. Davydav's style guide still applies for capitalization (and I won't use the same bad pun...) Sorry to be such a curmudgeon. You still do fine work ;) BKhon 03:34, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
ArrangersYou might be interested in this — P.davydov 19:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Symphonia et Ordo virtutum (Hildegard of Bingen)Thanks for causing an edit conflict for me when I went to save the modified page :) Do you approve? Philip Legge @ © talk 03:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Strikethrough on that. It turns out that I am somewhat misinformed...-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Interesting about the publication.
Thank you again.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 02:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice idea. I'll put it up-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 14:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Bach: Christmas OratorioThis page appears to be totally blanked. Any idea of what happened?? Carolus 03:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Weird. No source code even.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Interesting that it hasn't happened anywhere else. I wonder when this started, too...perhaps 2.1 is at fault...-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:56, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
CaptchaIt's probably not normal that I still have a captcha upon login, and sometimes when making edits (it goes on and off). Any way you know of I can fix this? BKhon 19:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
redirect pagesHi, I just got a zero result search from "J. S. Bach", and noticed you'd deleted the redirect. Are redirect pages that big a drain on the server? Richard Mix 19:42, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Bach cantatas projectIn regards this a bit tangentially, what do you think of the site Bach-cantatas.com? Reliable more or less? Eric 17:10, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Excellent source, cited in the book I'm using, and I actually have been linking across to the site for every cantata :). So, yes, I like it-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 01:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Cantatas, BWV 11-20What the reason for: "21:24, 5. Aug. 2010 Perlnerd666 (Diskussion | Beiträge) hat „Cantatas, BWV 11-20 (Bach, Johann Sebastian)“ gelöscht (Split)" The other segments of Bach cantatas remain unchanged. Notenschreiber 21:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I have a link from my "List of compositions featuring the Oboe" to "Cantatas, BWV 11-20" which doesn´t work any more. So it would be nice, if would restore it. Notenschreiber 15:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Konzertstück in F minor, Op.79 (Weber, Carl Maria von)How come it meets the criteria? (...actually only medium quality scan.) But nice to see it in the Featured Scores list :) Hobbypianist 17:36, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Sibley AwardThanks for the Sibley Award! Can't believe it's been out there for two days and I've just now noticed it.--Cypressdome 23:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Re: Main page: RSS/Atom feedHi Perlnerd666, yes I've seen your note and told Schissel. Thanks --Ralph Theo Misch 00:28, 31 October 2010 (UTC) |
| Archive 13 (November 5, 2010–January 21, 2011) |
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Archive 13QuezadaHi, Got your e-mail. The problem with Quezada is that he just does not get it. I note he posted the offending work again, despite the fact that the work is a copyright violation regardless of whether he chooses to mention that its by Volodos as arranged or typeset by Quezada. Legally (in the USA), he cannot even make an arrangement of Volodos' work without prior permission in writing to do so. As for his recordings, how are we supposed to know they're really his own and not those of Volodos or some other artist? It's not as if we can take his word for it. Carolus 22:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
ChopinI like the Chopin templates, thanks, BKhon 04:30, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
TableSince you tend to be good at creating templates and tables and such, could you help me fix the one I tried to implement on the The Materials of Music page? Somehow something went terribly wrong (the entire page is more of less incorrectly formatted)... Thanks, BKhon 22:36, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
I think that that's a result of the extraneous div-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:31, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
No problem. Fixed-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry—MS Word spellcheck...-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
BWV 822Hello PerIner666, On the Bach, J.S. wishlist I found BWV 822. The file is now online. --TobisNotenarchiv 21:36, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
CPE's QuartetsHi Perlnerd666, thanks for the tip (Hogwood). Do you know the recording with Andeas Steier and Les Adieux? - Exellent! Meanwhile I tried to find the Quartet in G major: I fear we have to make an edition by ear (mon Dieu!!). --Ralph Theo Misch 00:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
DeletionHi Perlnerd. Could you restore the file you had just deleted. I meant to tag the page for deletion, not the actual file ;) Lndlewis10 05:18, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Philip-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 16:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC) *blush*. Sorry.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 20:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC) Resubmitting filesPerlnerd, you can use the old file submitter with the full file name (including the PMLP prefix) to submit the files without re-uploading. To figure out the PMLP prefix of the old file you will need to look at the Recent Changes list. Unfortunately this is the best we can do at this point... --Feldmahler 04:28, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Grand MotetsIs this a work type? It isn't on the official MLA list :-) — P.davydov 16:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Many apologies; I'll consult next time!-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 16:42, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good. BTW, I haven't abandoned Bach; I'm now waiting for my copy to ship—I had to return the library's :)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 17:06, 5 December 2010 (UTC) BWV 831Hi Snailey. This wasn't carelessness on my part. The French form "Ouverture" is the spelling used in BWV (correcting the spelling of the first edition!) :-) — P.davydov 08:46, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I see. That makes sense.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 17:06, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Jauchzet, frohlocket-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:11, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Bach PortraitNo, not the work by Peter Schickele; what is the provenance of the new portrait for Sebastian featuring on his category page? I have not seen that depiction before and am wondering how it has been authenticated. Who is the painter? What year is it supposed to have been painted, and from life or from another representation? Cheers Philip Legge @ © talk 02:13, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Ihle painted it in Cöthen—Bach was 35. It's a somewhat doubtful proposition, but Besseler puts it in the 5 real portraits.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
BGA prefacesHi Snailey. These have always sat awkwardly in their current position, and I wondered whether they might be better placed all together in a sub-page of the BGA itself, say: Johann Sebastian Bach - Complete Works Edition/Prefaces (with links from the main complete works page)? The thematic catalogue specific to this edition could be handled in the same way (since this is also a works about Bach, rather than by him? On a related point, would the title of the complete works edition be better under its old title of Bach-Gesellschaft Ausgabe (or Johann Sebastian Bach - Bach-Gesellschaft Ausgabe), which is how it's referred to everywhere except on its very own page? This would be more consistent with our policy of preferring titles in the original language (e.g. Liszt's Neue Liszt Ausgabe), although the current Editions category is fairly inconsistent in the way collected works are titled — P.davydov 19:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
That's an interesting thought. Of course, another inconsistency is "Robert Alexander Schumann" vs. "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart"—I think we might be better off without "Johann Cryosostom Wolfgang Theophilius Mozart: Alte-Mozart Ausgabe" :)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:04, 31 December 2010 (UTC) Oh, and Johann Sebastian Bach - Complete Works Edition/Thematic Catalogue-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:05, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
All moved accordingly-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 19:46, 1 January 2011 (UTC) JSBI think that's more or less it. A lot of publication/instrumentation details could still be added to work pages from the BWV, but the main work list and BGA details should now be up-to-date. So I'll find something else to keep me busy for the rest of 2011 :-) Happy New Year! — P.davydov 17:41, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, we have more nothing of his than any other composer ;)-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 01:04, 2 January 2011 (UTC) Facsimiles (response)"Couldn't one just search by time period intersecting with First Editions or Manuscripts?-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 22:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)" An interesting question, deserving an interesting answer (and the justification for my tagging pages with "18th Century Facsimiles".) Before doing so, however, I have to say that searching (at least using the IMSLP search facilities I can locate) as you suggest produces pages and pages of ill-assorted and largely undifferentiated entries, with insufficient information to decide anything about the results without visiting each page. Very time-consuming, indeed. First of all, I would ask, why do we have two (uncategorized) categories (numbers 1 and 2 in the "Special Pages/uncategorized categories" category at the time of writing) if a search on time period intersected with first editions or manuscripts worked? Second, 18th C means 1700 to 1800, while the Baroque period as defined here means 600-1750. Facsimiles from 1600-1700 pass through a wide orthographic range from sharp-cornered White Mensural Notation to notation so close to modern that it is identical to many 19th century prints which would hardly be considered "facsimile" as a PDF scan. There is a specific period, roughly that of the French High Baroque, in which music which would fall into a comfortable "18th C facsimile", are beginning to appear as PDFs on IMSLP and the Internet in general, and it is this period I am primarily tagging: Marais, Caix, Rameau, Couperin, Boismortier: works printed with notation very close to modern, which can be sight-read 'off the page' from facsimiles, directly. I feel that it is important that these pieces be tagged in one unified (if uncategorized!) group. Third, many times, a first edition is not available in facsimile/scan/pdf, and, indeed, not available at all. Nor is a manuscript: where a second, third or whatever printed edition is all that is available or all that has been scanned, a search on First Edition OR Manuscript(s) would miss what could be extremely important examples. This is why I am tagging these pieces: largely because it is something that would have made my life easier, and more long-term because I believe that the century-delimited categories are a valid research tool. (I am not planning to tag 18th-century prints which are close enough to the Barenreiter standard that most people would be hard pressed to consider the scans 'facsimiles', but others may disagree and add them to the tag at their liberty.) Finally, I believe that it is very important for scholars (and students at all levels) to be able to locate scans of historically-intact examples of music in its original notation. I also hope that people will do as I am doing, and learn to read and interpret the music from the original "under fire", as it were, just as the musicians did, in their time. I believe that it is also important for those who will edit this music from these sources in the future to be able to find it: that's why it's being put here in IMSLP, and why, I believe, IMSLP exists. I believe it is also important to expand the listings under 17th and 16th Century facsimiles, and add, to the extent that IMSLP has them, 15th Century facsimiles as well. So I ask, is there something wrong or counter to IMSLP's policies for me to be tagging 18th century facsimiles explicitly? Talk to MeTiorbinist 00:01, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the "IMSLP Star"I've recently discovered that the "IMSLP Star" has been awarded to me for my activity on IMSLP Forums and IMSLP-EU hosting. Thank you very much! Max a.k.a. Choralia 13:27, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Sibley TemplateHi Snailey, I think there's a problem with this template that appears like that on my french screen : Cette partition est une partie du [[[IMSLP:Sibley Mirroring Project|Sibley Mirroring Project]] . Best wishes for this new year Squin 15:24, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Please remove the first [ Squin 06:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Music Publishers/Manual of StyleHello PerInerd666, you are using the term M2s, M3s at the site: Music Publishers/Manual of Style. Im translating it to German and don't know these abbreviations. Can you help me? Another question: On IMSLP:Music_Publishers is written: "The columns need to be sortable. Therefore, when multiple entries exist for one publisher, start a new column for the new entry." Is this correct? I think it should be "...start a new line for the new entry"?! --TobisNotenarchiv 12:01, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot!-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 21:27, 7 January 2011 (UTC) ReplyN6 (♭IIb) 04:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC) Featured MusicHi Perlnerd! I just wanted to ask whether you think it is feasible to include recordings in the daily featured music selections. They do not have to be updated as frequently (unless you want to), but it strikes me as a possibly good idea to make people realize that IMSLP includes many recordings as well. --Feldmahler 01:47, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Found some Schnabel.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 02:05, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
No particular reason actually. I could certainly do that for some of these recordings, to improve "publicity."
That sounds fine.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 22:21, 17 January 2011 (UTC) Veteran EditorWhat is the veteran editor image for? Lndlewis10 20:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
No—I guess I don't want to transfer the whole system (after all, even Wikipedia hasn't been around 15 years).-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 21:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC) Music Publishers pageHi Snailey, I worked on that page today, Grus, Enoch, Troupenas. I see now that, if someone want to find the publisher with the plate, he can search in an alphabetic order.. Plate A. ### to Plate Z. #### - But when the publisher used differents systems year after year (and we informe about that with different lines for a single publisher, using ---<hide>), one can't found the info each time - Example: I have a score with E.T.& Cie... I search by alphabetic order Plates A to Z...and look at E... I can't found the name of Troupenas, there is a blank 'cause Troupenas has ### before 1835 and T.#### after and E. T. & Cie.#### after 1844. Is it possible to do something ? Is my question clear ? --Squin 08:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Snailey.. (It can't really do what I want so I'll search in another way) Squin 17:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC) |
| Archive 14 (January 16, 2011-August 4 2011) |
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Archive 142 Pieces (Rameau, Jean-Philippe)The files can't stay as "2 Pieces", can they? Do you happen to know what should be done with them? I don't know if the PDF contains several different pieces, or if it is a suite. Thanks, Lndlewis10 18:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Complete score 1 is a odd mix of 7 François Couperin's various pieces for harpsichord - 6 took from "2è Ordre" (not in a good order) and 1 from "5è Ordre" & Complete score 2 is a mix of Rameau's various pieces from "Pièces de clavecin avec méthode sur la mécanique des doigts" and "Nouvelles suite pièces de pièces de clavecin" Unclassifiable ! Squin 19:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC) General information sectionHi Snailey. When you get the chance could you take a look at these ideas for improving the general information section on work pages? I'd value your opinion before I post it on the forums. Thanks — P.davydov 23:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Liszt SongsHi Perlnerd666, on the occasion of Liszt's anniversary, this could be interesting: I've heard on the radio that Brahms and Schumann (I never had expected) tried to prevent that Liszt becomes known as a Lied Composer - with some success. Probably IMSLP has got the largest collection of those works by him. Cheers --Ralph Theo Misch 00:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
GraingerHi Perlnerd. Just to let you know that he's been moved to Grainger, Percy in accordance with our naming guidelines. Cheers, KGill talk email 22:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Good idea-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 18:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC) Molly on the Shore (Grainger, Percy)Hi Snailey. There are apparently various versions of this arrangement, and I wonder if you could indicate which one you uploaded? The file isn't PD in my part of the world, or for Steltz who's trying to tag it :-) Thanks — P.davydov 09:42, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't know (I just took it off the US server). As you're a CR, it's fine for you to look into the file to check the CR status or in this case specific information about the publication, no?-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 15:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
OK.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 15:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Clean-up StarA belated thanks! Lndlewis10 02:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Beethoven SplittingThanks for splitting that. I've had it on my hard-drive now for a while... Been too lazy to split it, Lndlewis10 04:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
sorry about that.also, was confused and was wondering if I might ask advice myself. - was helping out, or trying to (badly!)- user EFerreri - who wished files on his pages , all but the most recent ones, deleted, but couldn't see the links that did so. (... actually, wonder if it's a browser settings issue, or something, come to think of it.) I misread the instructions and told him- against rationality and my own recollection- that he had to be an admin to do so (as is true of work and file -pages-). which is why he then went and placed the delete tag on the file page. I will restore it, and I apologize for causing the misunderstanding and generally messing up, though I wish I could figure out why the fellow's browser can't seem to see the delete links -on- the file pages... bit of a puzzle. Eric 03:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Featured ScoresHi! Yes, I'm interested in helping to translate from the English. I'll do it as soon as I can. Regards, --Anthōny 12:09, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Done. Thanks!-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 02:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC) Current Featured scoreRossini's name is a broken link - it's misspelled (Gioacchino). Thought someone should fix it, since it won't let me edit. Fixed.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 22:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC) Music Publishers PagePerhaps encouraged to be greatly reduced in that case, I guess. Eric 01:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
CRHi Perlnerd. I hate to criticize, but would you mind perhaps being a bit more careful about the files you tag for copyright status? Just today, you tagged four files here as being PD in the EU (Italian composer, d.1942), and you also tagged a file on this page !N/!N/!N even though there is no evidence the uploader has permission to make an arrangement of this work - the original appears to be under a No Derivatives license. (I am currently waiting for his response.) Thanks, KGill talk email 23:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that. Yes, I'll be more careful.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC) RE: GombertThanks!! - I am grateful to WilliamBunting for the note on the source. --Ralph Theo Misch 23:02, 27 June 2011 (UTC) IRCWhy don't you get yourself on the IRC at some point :-) It'd be nice if all the admins could check in ;-) Lndlewis10 22:45, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
CR againHi Perlnerd. I noticed you retagged one of my V/V/C tags for an unpublished manuscript as V/V/V. According to new guidelines first adopted in December (though not really formally until a few weeks ago; see No.2 in the EU section on that page), the availability through online European library collections of manuscripts that were never previously published might fit the definition of first publication in the EU, and therefore they should be tagged as C for that area. Thanks, KGill talk email 00:45, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
User PageHi Perlnerd! I happen to know you are meticulous about your user page and other things. Don't mind my "goofing around" with new templates (that may or may not be useful) and such, but you should take a look and see if there's anything you want to incorporate. Cheers, Lndlewis10 05:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and you might want to take the code for the grey background out of the collapsible sections—it was only to fit in with the rest of my user page (easier on the eyes, I believe, was my reasoning...or something).-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 05:20, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I haven't really been around, as you might have noticed—thus I have no clue about activity from "newer" users, and don't know to whom to award awards. I didn't realize that I was the designated giver of awards—go ahead.
Considering that it's 1:30 AM, I was actually just about to get off...shoot me an email or a message here, and I'll respond...well, later today. Cheers-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 05:34, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, it was then too...have to go soon...-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 15:25, 29 July 2011 (UTC) Music artistsAre they really artists... It's not like they produce art! Cheers ;) Lndlewis10 17:50, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
That's plenty for now-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 22:45, 29 July 2011 (UTC) Songs and Vocal WorksHi, Glad to see you're back! See my note on Icactus' talkpage about the potential copyright pitfalls with authors and translators. All countries with "Life-plus" terms base the term on the last surviving contributor. So a song with text by Reginald De Koven's daughter Ethel (b.1885) could still be protected even in Canada. Carolus 02:55, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
French version of Mozart's Ave verumDear Perlnerd666, well it's for mixed chorus and harmonium. But the instrumental part could be just as well for piano or organ. So I put it to the vocal scores. I hope it's ok. Regards --Ralph Theo Misch 23:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Geistliche Gesänge, Op.110 (Reger, Max)Hi Perlnerd666, me again. That's the source. The publisher info I've copied from here. I hope it's correct. All the best --Ralph Theo Misch 23:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC) Update: direct link to the source doesn't work. Sorry! --Ralph Theo Misch 23:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
This was a case of a little misinterpretation—the M.R. plate number pins it as a volume of the complete works edition. It might simply be a direct reprint of U.E., but the actual publisher is Breitkopf. Cheers-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Great! Thanks-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC) |
