User talk:Lndlewis10/archive1

Contents 1 Movements 2 Friml 3 Georges Conus 4 Henri Busser 5 John Cage 6 Collections 7 Circulation record 8 Rygard 9 "Piano Score" 10 Thanks 11 Deletions 12 All the Major Keys 13 Faulty deletes on workpages 14 LinkTr 15 Instrumentation capitalization section 16 Allegro CPE Bach 17 Alte Meister 18 Beethoven Op.18 Quartets 19 Martinez 20 André arrangements 21 H. W. Ernst - Trio pour un violon 22 Graupner picture

Movements

Actually, at least I prefer to keep the numeric value of number of movements in arabic, and only the individual movements in roman. Also, the genres are no longer modifiable by most users, and are placed in the "tags" at the bottom of each page )please do not modify!). If you have a dispute over the categorization of a piece, contact a member of the Categorization Project. Thanks-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 14:40, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Also, for typesets (such as that one by Tony Wilkinson), please don't change the copyright type to public domain. All typesets are under Creative Commons licenses. Thanks, KGill _{talk email} 16:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I will keep all of this in mind for future edits. Thanks Lndlewis10 16:47, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Friml

Because he died in 1972, he can't be uploaded here, since he's under copyright in most of the world. You may want to read this page for more information on what's permissible on IMSLP. Thanks, KGill _{talk email} 16:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Georges Conus

Hi, we actually already have this piece here. Thanks, KGill _{talk email} 23:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Henri Busser

Because he died in 1973, his works are not in the public domain in Canada and therefor can not be uploaded to this site. Like Kgill said, it may be a good idea to read this. It's quite interesting and will no doubt come in handy. Thanks, BKhon 20:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

John Cage

Unless you are referring to a different John Cage, his works are not yet in the public domain in Canada since he died in 1992. The page will have to be deleted. Thanks, BKhon 22:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Collections

The Sibley item you uploaded as Kinder's Cantilene du Soir is actually a number of separate pieces from a series titled Recital Pieces for Organ. Ideally, we'll eventually need to split this up into the separate composers and pieces. You have to watch out with Sibley items as the descriptions are sometimes inaccurate, especially for the items they added up until 2008 or so. Dates are notoriously unreliable, as they often will simply put in a date like "1800" or "1870" when there is no date printed on the music at all. These estimated dates are also frequently considerably off the mark. Carolus 20:25, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I noticed some of the incorrect dates last night, Lndlewis10 01:57, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Circulation record

Hi Nick, you can just remove the file on the upload form. Simply highlight all the text in the 'file' box that contains a filename ending in 'circ' and delete it. Cheers, KGill _{talk email} 02:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. That would be much easier... Lndlewis10 02:14, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Rygard

We already have him: Rygaard, Georg Thanks, KGill _{talk email} 02:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

We also have Bohrer: Bohrer, Antoine. Could you please check before creating a new category? Thanks, KGill _{talk email} 02:41, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I do. Nothing comes up under a search.

That's surprising, given that 'Anton' appears as an alternate name on Antoine's page. Have you tried simply looking in Category:Composers? KGill _{talk email} 02:43, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

No. I will next time. Sorry. Lndlewis10 02:44, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

It's cool :-) KGill _{talk email} 02:45, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

No, it's not. I won't let the horrid abominations happen again. Lndlewis10 02:46, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

If you say so xD KGill _{talk email} 02:48, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Don't bother with that last one. I'm no longer fit to contribute. At least for a few more hours, Lndlewis10 02:53, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

"Piano Score"

That's the standard-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 04:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I'll go back... Lndlewis10 04:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 04:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed -- Lndlewis10 05:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 05:18, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

....for the excellent cleanup work, BTW! Carolus 21:13, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome, but I feel sort of bad about not taking care of the information you added to the Mozart symphonies (among other things). Lndlewis10 01:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Deletions

Hi Nick, would you mind just marking the files for deletion rather than tagging them as 'Removed' (which has no effect whatsoever)? Thanks, KGill _{talk email} 01:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure. For some reason I had thought that tagging "file removed" would have deleted it.. Sorry for that. Lndlewis10 01:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

It's OK. Even the Villa-Lobos has to go...too bad ;-) (j/k) KGill _{talk email} 02:12, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the Villa-Lobos is also a clear copyright violation. We can't have any legal threats laying around the site, even if it's a piece by your favorite composer. Lndlewis10 02:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I've received a response from Steven Hager, who is a big fan of IMSLP. He did not authorize Ben to upload any of his work, much less for Ben to falsely attribute the work to himself. Nevertheless, he is not angry and wishes Ben well. Like many composers, editors and arrangers, Steven was mainly concerned that we had old, uncorrected files instead of his latest versions. He may be uploading these himself in the future. Carolus 04:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Carolus. Thsnk you for informing me of the situation. I did go ahead and tag the works for deletion, as you know. I thought it would be safer if they were removed. I look forward to the real Steven uploading his latest typesets, since many of them were very nice. Lndlewis10 17:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

All the Major Keys

Both begin and end in C Major. Thanks-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 04:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Ignorant of me, sorry. Lndlewis10 04:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Fixed-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 04:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't have happened in the first place. Lndlewis10 04:48, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Faulty deletes on workpages

Hello, have a look at the corresponding forum entry - strange thing to happen! --Kalliwoda 18:55, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I just stumbled upon a very serious bug resulting in workpages being invisible on the composer page: Dvorak: Symphony No 9 "New World" Could find the page by doing a search for New World, however. Apparently Lndlewis10 on Nov. 30 deleted a score file incompletely leaving a single bracket "}" behind - and that resulted in the complete workpage being invisible. I fixed the problem for this page, but am wondering how many other pages have "disappeared" by similar faulty edits

Yes, I deleted a file on that page due to it being a copyright violation. Strangely enough, this was not an error for me. Also, no one noticed it except you. Might it just be a problem with your browser or something? To my knowledge, no other work pages have been deleted. Lndlewis10 21:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

To be exact, the workpage was not invisible, it was just missing as an entry on the composers page - i.e. only symphonies 1-8 were listed. --Kalliwoda 22:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Weird... Leaving a bracket wouldn't have caused that I don't think. I would approach a more "regular" user about this, like KGill or Carolus. Thanks for bringing this to my attention - Lndlewis10 00:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that that missing bracket does indeed hide the workpage—by taking it out of its categories. Basically, it makes the fte template malfunction, and thus ruins all of the lovely automatic parsing. This only happens occasionally.-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 01:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I wouldn't be too concerned about this. It's really a pretty infrequent mistake (luckily...), and when people make it they commonly catch it when looking at the page after their edit (I've done this myself several times). KGill _{talk email} 02:06, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

LinkTr

Good idea! Instead of scores, maybe it's better to have "Works translated by..." or "Texts translated by...", as the template could then be used for books as well. Just a suggestion — P.davydov 17:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I think that changing the title to include books is a good a good idea. I thought that the template might be useful from a librarian standpoint. I figured that the reason it didn't already exist was because it isn't about music per se, so hopefully it's not out of place - Lndlewis10 22:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Instrumentation capitalization section

(reference: User talk:Schissel/archive3#Instrumentation again and other places) I don't mind doing that one way or the other, so long as there is a page I can find out what the rules are about this, this minute and then again the next minute, or if people will make up their minds. A really somewhat frustrated though not at you - Eric 01:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Eric. Ah, I guess it's not really a rule one way or another. The manual says "one need not capitalize", so it could be interpreted either way, though with strong hints that instruments should not be capitalized. The manual can be found here for reference. Why shouldn't they appear in the English though? It seems more pleasing from a visual standpoint, and there isn't anything musically that should prevent the practice. What is your thought? Lndlewis10 01:43, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

We never actually achieved a consensus on whether the names should be capitalized or not, with the current guidelines just saying "they don't have to be". But we have standardized names for instruments in the categorization system, so "English horn" is used instead of "Cor anglais", and "cello" instead of "violoncello", for example, and it's helpful if people can use these English forms wherever possible — P.davydov 09:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Allegro CPE Bach

Hello Lndlewis10,

I moved the file to Sonata in A major, Wq.55/4 (H.186) (Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel), because the Allegro is a movement of the Sonata. --TobisNotenarchiv 12:27, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Lndlewis10 15:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Alte Meister

Why did you remove the composer names? Are you splitting it?-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 21:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Never mind—I see. Perhaps you should add Alte Meister to the publisher info from your recent uploads?-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 21:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I never noticed that to be a common practice. According to the "publication" information field, the format is: <Place>: <Publisher>, No. <Publisher's catalog number>, <Date>. Plate <Plate number>. Where would I mention that it's part of "Alte Meister"? Lndlewis10 21:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Above, as it's the edition from which the files come. viz. complete works editions.-- Snailey (_@/) _{Talk to Me Email me} 21:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, OK. That makes sense...  :oops: Lndlewis10 21:14, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Beethoven Op.18 Quartets

See the comment on my talk page. The more I think about this, the less I am persuaded Altmann has anything to do with these. Carolus 04:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. For some reason I had assumed that Altmann had edited the scores and written the one page forward (source was worldcat). I should have done more detailed research. Thanks, Lndlewis10 05:02, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Martinez

Hi Nick. Just to let you know that she's been moved to Martinez, Marianne in accordance with our naming guidelines. Cheers, KGill _{talk email} 23:08, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

André arrangements

Since almost everything (except 1 title) is by Julius, use the simple form (André) instead of adding the first name 26 times. I already put in (J.B. André) on the single example of his brother's arrangement we have. It will make life easier. Carolus 05:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks (with apologies), Lndlewis10 06:01, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

H. W. Ernst - Trio pour un violon

Thanks for changing the title back. One thing, though. Sorry for being picky, but could you change the page´s name to the proper french spelling, Trio pour un violon instead of Trio pour un violin. I wouldn´t generally at all care if it´s perfectly spelled or not, but now, as far as I understand, you don´t get any results in the search if you type in the right spelled title of this piece. That, however, could be a problem. This composition is so rare and otherwise important, so that´s why I´m so rigid with the right spelling one this one. I´m very happy to be able to spread this piece of art to as many people as possible.

Cheers

Graupner picture

Hi Nick. This is not actually a picture of Graupner (none exists), and therefore I've removed it from his category. (See also here.) Cheers, KGill _{talk email} 21:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Just noticed that it's actually a picture of Graupner's patron. Thanks, Lndlewis10 21:39, 17 January 2011 (UTC)