Just a quick thank-you for identifying it :-) KGill talk email 01:22, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
You recently uploaded a cello sonata by Désiré Thomassin. Do you have any biographical information on her(him?)? I have found many references to a painter of that name, and since the birth and death dates are the same, I assume they are the same person, but I can find no musical references. Yet the sonata is Op. 76, indicating an pretty extensive publishing history. My curiosity is piqued :)
Yojimbo
Hallo, Generoso,
hättest Du Zeit und Lust, mir beim Scannen und Hochladen meiner kleinen "Cello-Bibliothek" zu helfen? Neben den Standard-Werken habe ich auch noch einige Sachen, die hier bei IMSLP noch nicht vorhanden sind. Z.B. Dotzauers 24 Übungen, Op.35. Ich würde Dir die Sachen zuschicken und Du könntest sie nach dem Einscannen auch behalten. Soll ich Dir eine Liste meiner Sammlung zukommen lassen? Grüße von --Ralph Theo Misch 00:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
This is extremely interesting! I'm having trouble locating the piano part for this edition - in particular I need a scan of the title page for a research project here at the university of Leeds. Any chance you could send one? or can you direct me to a source of the original? No library in the UK appears to hold it. Thanks George Kennaway
Dear Generoso, this is the list of the collection from W. Gaehtgens (1887-1965), a Catholic Priest. I think most of those works you already own and/or they are uploaded. But perhaps the editions are interesting.
Best wishes! --Ralph Theo Misch 23:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, This is a tough call, but I don't think they actually qualify as arrangements - since the original was apparently intended for cello and continuo, which would normally include a keyboard instrument. If you have evidence indicating otherwise (like the sonata originally being for violin or another instrument, that changes things obviously. It appears that Salmon was basically realizing the continuo and perhaps slightly altering the solo line to be playable on a modern instrument, which still qualifies as an edition (though not an urtext one). Carolus 21:28, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
See "Misc. Notes" for the explanation.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 21:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Indeed. That one is actually in a Suzuki book, supposedly, under the wrong composer! Same with the "lully" gavotte by Marin Marais. Cheers-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 21:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Is still in copyright in Canada. Thanks-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 23:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Great work - many thanks again! --Ralph Theo Misch 23:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
The Bach Musette is actually an arrangement of Gavottes 1 and 2 from Suite 6 in D minor from English Suites, BWV 806-811 (Bach, Johann Sebastian)- perhaps it might be moved into the arrangements and transcriptions section there rather than having its own page? Don't know the policy and I don't think I have the ability to move either! Eric 18:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Generoso, I didn't keep it back to you - it's 'new'! :-) --Ralph Theo Misch 23:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm confused by the Karl Davydov section of this page - are these (in section 3) arrangements by Davydov of works by other people? I don't know what they're doing in the list of Fitzenhagen's compositions though, unless Fitzenhagen was a pseudonym for Davydov... like I said, I'm confused? Eric 00:57, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
re Reicha addition to the worklist - if "D-sharp major" is a translation of 'in Dis', I believe (and has not been verified from score) - from things I've read, anyway - that in the late-Classical/early-Romantic period (even as late as 1824 when Beethoven considered writing 'in Dis' on the cover page of his Missa Solemnis) that this was not a notification of the key of E♭ major generally speaking (with exceptions I'm sure), but rather a notification to woodwind that the work was in D major (and likely to go even further sharp!), or E if the winds were transposing wind in B♭, and care should be taken in advance. (Possibly, for example, care to choose the instrument in A instead where possible - for clarinets e.g. ;) ) I think so anyway! Eric 22:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
I do have at least one piece "in Dx"- which I think is D-sharp??... - by Pichl- that is definitely in D major, though (the Synfonia pastorale from DKB). But thank you, also learning a lot. Eric 03:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello Generoso,
I created a new page: Wq numbers what makes it necessary to move the page that you created to: H numbers. I hope that's okay for you.
Now working on preparing a score (and perhaps, not hard once score is ready, typeset parts too) from the parts of Mascia's quintet op.99 in B♭ major, if I can (I'm out of practice with Lilypond, but it's not proving too difficult so far.) I like it. The date at the end of the parts (18.3.19 - perhaps March 18 1819???) suggests he was perhaps 10-11 years old when he finished the work, if I understand aright- interesting (and young for an op99, though not unprecedented that). Of course the date could mean something else, any of a number of things (indeed, there are several possibilities that come to mind with so little known -by me anyway - about the composer...) Neat piece, not fantastic but interesting in its use of mediant and submediant modulations so far, I'm liking it without doubt:) Where is the source of the parts if I may ask- library, booksale, ???- page doesn't say. Referring to String Quintet, Op.99 (Mascia, Giuseppe). Eric 03:57, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you- and looking over what I wrote I don't mean to deprecate it, it seems so far to be an interesting and enjoyable piece. Eric 13:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Making progress on notated/Lilypond score for op.99, and thanks for uploading the other quintets. 272 bar (incl first ending/2nd ending) first movement of op.99 more or less collated, going to tackle the rest of that quintet... Eric 05:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi Generoso. Just to let you know that the fifth part file you added was really the same as the fourth (i.e., Cello 1 again instead of Cello 2) and has therefore been removed. Did in fact InternetCulturale scan the Cello 2 part? Thanks, KGill talk email 22:50, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi Generoso. Just to let you know that the file you uploaded had to be deleted, because it was a 1962 Simrock edition edited by Willy Domandl, who appeared to make original contributions (fingerings and so forth). Sorry, KGill talk email 18:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
It seems like page seven in the violin part is missing, Sarasate´s Spanish Dance no. 2, Habanera?
Thank you for your kind words! I'm scanning the studies for Mendelssohn now, and in the meantime learning to make better scans. I wondered, how do you use these Sevcik works for cello? Do you apply the principles to cello repertoire, or do you somehow transcribe the violin works for cello? Bart Bartmeijer 14:52, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Generoso. Just to let you know that the files you uploaded here had to be deleted, because Saleski (d.1966) is under copyright in Canada. Although we do have a US server, it is not currently open for general uploading (being restricted to use by a few people). Sorry, KGill talk email 20:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
The edition of Joseph Malkin (1879-1969) is not PD in Canada. Have to delete, sorry. 22:21, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
I can't even figure out how to use that site for anything more than viewing anymore - which I figured is what they may well want, mind. Eric 00:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Still need to check that file which wasn't readable when you sent me it- will do. One of the manuscripts at SLUB is the manuscript version, apparently, in their Schumann-album (perhaps it was a gift of Merk to one or both of them?), of a B minor etude by Joseph Merk, possibly from opus 11. Neat things turn up in these places! Eric 00:06, 28 March 2011 (UTC) (I say possibly from because I haven't really looked through the edition of opus 11 onsite yet but will compare later too - not tracking well alas. Sorry!)
Dear Generoso, as a - let's say almost - professional cellist, let me first thank you for your devotion in uploading so many scores for cello worth of (re)discovery; I have been following your uploading schedule since quite a long lime, and more recently I have been struck by the beauty of Luigi Forino's third "Preghiera" for cellos (as I generally fall in love with anything that has a somewhat Debussy-sounding dominant ninth or even just a Tristan-chord in it). The question I pose to you, is: do you happen to have the remaining three "Preghiere"? I'd be so interested in getting to know them, and play them as soon as possible with my cello colleagues in Switzerland. Also, I'll soon come into possessions of a copy of Amilcare Zanella's Cello sonata, published in 1918 by Bongiovanni in Italy: it's an incredible piece, definitely worth rediscovery in my opinion; you can listen to a professional recording of the first movement on youtube, and as soon as I'll have the music in my hands I'll ask you if it is possible to let you have this music, and how. Thanks for your work and your attention. Best regards, Jacopo Gianesini (Turin - Italy)
thank you very much for discovering this site (apparently so). Should have figured that Italians were writing a lot more chamber music in the 1830s e.g. than I'd been told- that never seemed right, the "usual story". (seems a gold mine truly if carefully used, and fun. A chamber arrangement of Spohr sym 8 I find there, too- finally able to fill that gap, sort of, in that composer’s category, as there was no page at all for that symphony. ... I should look up Zanella there, in rel. the previous thread ;) ) Eric 13:37, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Generoso. Just to let you know he's been moved to Naḥman in accordance with IMSLP's naming guidelines. Cheers, KGill talk email 12:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Dear Generoso, this morning I came into possession of the scan of Zanella's "Fantasia Orientale" for six cellos. It's an unpublished work, existing only in manuscript form. As I know NOTHING about copyright laws and stuff, I'm asking you, as I'd be interested in sahring this piece with as many people as possible...what should I do? Could you please help me? Thanks in advance, Jacopo
Hello Generoso,
You don't happen to know if the parts found below the Vidal orchestration you just uploaded are actually for that orchestration, do you? I just noticed that there was a harp (as in Vidal) but no horns. It's possible that these parts match the Vidal but simply are missing the horns. I can check later myself of course but wondered if you might know off the top of your head. Regards, Carolus 20:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Hallo Generoso, just noticed that you cleaned the orphaned Vc-part from Coburg for the op.91 Gesänge by J.W.Kalliwoda. You can also find this here in complete form http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/117959 No pdf-downlad option yet, but in Safari (Mac) you can zoom to the highest resolution and then save very high quality jpegs (4500 dot, color) by dragging to the desktop. Karlsruhe also has a "recent additions page" http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/nav/history/ At the moment I have so much other stuff waiting to be completed that it would be quite some time before I could add these myself to imslp.--Kalliwoda 16:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Changes again, this time for the better: They now have an easy pdf-download option, unfortunately in a lower but workable resolution (1000 pixel/120dpi). The magnificent high-res 3500x4500 pixel scans can still only be accessed by screenshots. --Kalliwoda 20:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Hallo Generoso, Regarding Bihari Primatialis Magyarja: This is a work by János Bihari, arranged by Armand Zsadanyi, I have copied the files to the relevant workpage. See the entry for this work at the Hungarian National library http://nektar2.oszk.hu/librivision_eng.html}}. Even BnF has it wrong with its catalog entry.--Kalliwoda 07:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Dear Generoso Thanks for this nice piece. Have you also got the violon solo score? Thanks in advance for your answer. Kind regards Hibemael
Dear Generoso Thanks for all your work on the Orchestra Parts Project. I noticed that there are 2 pages missing nos. 10 & 11 on Brahms Pno Concerto 2 cello part. Any chance you can fix it? Thanks! http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_No.2,_Op.83_(Brahms,_Johannes) Scutter7282 talk email09:53, 17 Jun 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for looking for a complete version. I also noticed that the last page of Schubert Symphony 9 cello part is missing. I happen to have OML PDF of that and it does have the last page, but I'm not sure how to remove logo as it is password protected. I do have CS3 and would do it myself but this is a roadblock. Thanks for your help! Scutter7282 11:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
what I can think of for now, would be to find some way to transfer the files to me or another imslp-us admin (I think this is legal since we are both in the US and they are pd-us). assuming enough publishing information, could then upload them myself/the other admin could. Eric 01:36, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
ah, apparently congrats on becoming a IMSLP-US admin and apologies re the above ! Eric 13:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Generoso. Would you mind reuploading the file you put here to the US server? Since the guy died in 1974, it will have to be deleted from the main server. (I'll leave the file up for a bit so you can easily save it again to upload - even though it's blocked, the uploader of a file can always download his/her own submissions.) Thanks, KGill talk email 23:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Since you're doing such a wonderful job of lifting things from there.... {{Hathi|#########}} we now have a template you can use. Carolus 02:46, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Tutorial to get JPEG files from flash based sites... (like the Juilliard Manuscript Collection)
Thanks for the info on my talk page and for the tutorial : your name is well adapted to your gifts ! I had a look quickly It seems a bit chinese for me but I'll look at it closer --Squin 15:19, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
{{JuilliardMSS|BEET/BEET_KREU}} gives you: US-NYj. Carolus 05:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
the redirect for Breitkopf & Härtel is Breitkopf und Härtel, not Breitkopf :) Thanks Eric 10:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
btw, died in 1962 - I think his music would have to go on the imslp.us server, maybe there are exceptions. Eric 04:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Generoso
From a WIMA user I've forwarded an error report on József Bloch, Op.34 to the forum, 'Feature Requests / Bug Reports', see http://imslpforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5597
I believe I should notify you as well
Greetings --Reccmo 17:44, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
You may remember that on the forums a month or two ago there was an inquiry about these, but we did not give the person much help. In the absence of a dfficulty tagging system I think the above would be very helpful for amateurs looking for music.
As a fellow string music uploader would you like to co-operate? I have been collecting pieces, mainly from Debrecen that would be suitable for a start.
I made a similar list of easy piano trios, which is on IMSLP but pretty inaccessible unfortunately. We have to be sure that the list comes up easily from the google search box. As a start I will make up a short list.
Regards WB
Have you ever seen the arrangement for cello of Heller's Pensees Fugitives? I stumbled on the title page only on the Debrecen site, along with the violin version (arr Ernst) It's IMSLP #168739. Regards WB
Erm... belatedly re the Melartin Cantilène (from the Pieces for Violin and Piano, Op.44 (Melartin, Erkki)) - I know this is probably a date from the manuscript, but I suspect the date is not the date of composition - 1875 is the composer's birthdate. Likewise with the String Trio op.133. Melartin was not doing much composing that year unless he was more prodigal than Mozart... Eric 16:14, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
BNF has a template, q.v. :) Also, if you don't know the date of composition but only the date of publication, the two could differ by months, years, decades or centuries, so... best to put the date of publication in the date of publication field... Eric 07:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello - I was just going to import the Paganini String Quartet from Sibley when I saw that you had already done it - congratulations on being so efficient!
I have done a bit of background research and discovered that there are 3 string quartets, composed about 1815-1818, which are given the opus number 1a. Thus, you may wish to create a work page under the title '3 String Quartets, Op.1a' and then we can add the other two quartets as they become available. That was my intention, anyway.
Have a look around and see what you can find out. Example here: http://www.recordsinternational.com/cd.php?cd=04N037
Aldona 03:24, 25 October 2012 (EDT)
I have updated the Paganini quartet page. Thanks for the info! Generoso 11:19, 25 October 2012 (EDT)
And then there is also this String Quartet in E major (the only one we have on IMSLP at the moment)
So I have moved it to its own page. Generoso 11:52, 25 October 2012 (EDT)
