User talk:Carolus/archive7


New Publisher Pages

I made a page for J.G. Cotta. Feel free to add info, etc. at will. -- Snailey Yell at me Email me 18:20, 27 February 2009 (EST)

And the same for Arthur P. Schmidt.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 14:14, 28 February 2009 (EST)
And F. Lucca. -- Snailey Yell at me Email me 14:31, 28 February 2009 (EST)
And Aibl.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 14:49, 28 February 2009 (EST)
Are they any good?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 22:19, 28 February 2009 (EST)
They are all very good. To repeat something Philip mentioned on the forum, having the pages there is fine since it encourages others to add to them as the oportunity presents itself. Carolus 22:21, 28 February 2009 (EST)
And one more for Ballard. That one was extremely interesting. You should have a look. BTW, my source was Grove's for all except Cotta, which I found in Brittanica 11th edition; the Grove's for Ballard cited This, which seems like it would be interesting to have on IMSLP, though it seems as if the Bavarian state library hasn't scanned their copy yet.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 15:36, 1 March 2009 (EST)
Interesting. Have you tried looking on Google for a copy of that? They've scanned tons of stuff. Also, there's a book that was issued in the late 1980s or early 1990s by Francois Lesure (who is responsible for the L numbers used for Debussy) which lists all of the 19th century French music publishers complete with plate number listings and confirmed dates for the more important issues. Getting that info up on IMSLP would be extremely beneficial for dating things - or even figuring out exactly which publisher was reprinted. Carolus 15:40, 1 March 2009 (EST)
Google has not scanned it; perhaps we could ask BSB (worldcat says that they have a copy) to scan it? ;-)-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 15:46, 1 March 2009 (EST)
Catalogue De La Musique Imprimee Avant 1800?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 15:49, 1 March 2009 (EST)
That might be it. It's been a number of years since I saw a copy.Carolus 15:50, 1 March 2009 (EST)

Well, this is what google found. -- Snailey Yell at me Email me 15:51, 1 March 2009 (EST)

A little rich for my blood. Ouch! There is no reason on earth a book like that has to be that expensive in this day and age. This is the sort of thing which just encourages folks to ignore copyright laws altogether. I'll look around of a used copy. Carolus 15:57, 1 March 2009 (EST)
P.S. Ha! I just ordered it on Interlibrary loan. We'll see if I actually get a copy. Carolus 17:01, 1 March 2009 (EST)

Any news?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 18:54, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Still trying to get it. Carolus 21:02, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Gottschalk Editio principes 1976

Carolus, I'm looking to complete whatever is left and eligible, however several that are on the wishlist and thus we don't have were published in a collection entitled The Little Book of Louis Moreau Gottschalk, ed. R. Jackson and N. Ratliff (New York, 1976). What rubric will these fall under? Daphnis 16:39, 1 March 2009 (EST)

Unfortunately, since they were first published in the USA, it's a full 95 year term. In Canada, it's still protected because it was first published in the USA ;less than 50 years ago. In the EU, it's probably public domain under the Editio Priceps rubric - at least in most countries. If you can prove any title was first published back in Gottschalk' lifetime, the original publication is of course free. Carolus 16:59, 1 March 2009 (EST)

I thought as much. Oh well. I'm still finding several pieces we don't have and am trying to get them. Hopefully we can have as close to a complete collection as is possible soon. Thanks for the info. Daphnis 17:05, 1 March 2009 (EST)


Sorry, I took your silence as a yes. But it is easier to edit your talk now. P.S. Do you know when or if I could take the CR test?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 11:49, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Perlnerd's enthusiasm is a very remarkable and this might be a good moment. However I would like then to ask Feldmahler to think about the user filter or different levels in the tagging system in regard of having the best oppurtunities to train - and control - our new recruits.--Peter talk 13:27, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Amazon Links

I added one for the Saint-saens third symphony, as you probably noticed. Was I going about it the right way?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 10:47, 4 March 2009 (EST)

Almost. You only covered the US link, though. Copy the ones from the Beethoven or Brahms symphonies or Sonatas, then obtain the 10-digit ISBN for the new item you want to add links for then replace the ISBN in the Amazon link just pasted. That way, all four IMSLP aStores (which are all actually at the various Amazons), can be covered. We're presently in the process of setting up an aStore for Amazon Japan, so there will soon be five Amazon links for the scores we link to. BTW, we link to Amazon only if Dover or another publisher has reprinted the very same score that is present on IMSLP (there a couple of exceptions, but that's the general rule. Last night, I just happened to come across an Amazon listing for a Kalmus/Alfred reprint of the Arensky Op.24 Piano pieces, so I put in a link. We've got the top 100 most popular pages pretty much covered now, so it's on to the top 250-500. As with the recordings links (generated automatically thanks to some programming on Feldmahler's part), IMSLP gets a commission on the scores sold at Amazon, which helps with our server bills - which come due every month irrespective of the number of Amazon referrals. Carolus 12:38, 4 March 2009 (EST)

I created a nice little template: Template:AmazonLinks, so you can add the Japan there. The syntax is {{AmazonLinks|ISBN}}-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 20:20, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks, I'm sure it will prove useful as more are added over time. We just added Canada, so Japan will follow in due course for a total of six links. Carolus 00:55, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

The Mozart Piano Concertos are, at long last, linked. This template is really only useful if it gets used :)-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:16, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for doing that. The Mozart concertos are very important works, so it's really nice to have links to the Dover reprints. Carolus 21:18, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
*Salutes*. BTW, how do you like the new userboxes I created (viz your user page, etc.) I thought it would be nice for new users.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:19, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
Those are very nice also. You notice we're down to less than 100 files to be checked? Carolus 21:24, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks to Peter, if you check the history. It looks much less intimidating than the 3,000-some I remember seeing at the reopening! If we get down to 0, then we might finally be able to change the message to a less wshy-washy thing. BTW, did you see the Rule of the Shorter Term Re-tag I did? Could you please check that?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:26, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I'll check it out. Thanks for the heads-up. You're correct. Sandby's transcription is nit PD in Canada. Might not be in the EU either - unless he was actually residing in the USA when it was published. Carolus 21:27, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Tricky one, that. 74 files!-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:30, 19 March 2009 (EDT) Thanks to you, the template is now ninth most used - 211 links already!-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:32, 22 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks to you for designing an incredibly useful and versatile template! When we're farther along with getting the Amazon scores linked (not just Dover, BTW, they have lots of others as well), you might want to think about a Sheet Music Plus template. This is especially helpful in the case like Schoenberg and Bartok where there are pieces still protected in the USA and EU that are temporarily blocked. With an Amazon or SMP link, the frustrated user at least can purchase a score - sometimes for a reasonable price, too. Carolus 23:16, 22 March 2009 (EDT)
Well I must thank you! When you mentioned that the ISBN could just be copied and pasted for the different stores, it seemed logical to just take everything else and stuff it away somewhere else. I don't know how the SM+ Links work, so that could be harder...-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 09:50, 23 March 2009 (EDT)


Hello, your project here is wonderful. I was wondering if you would be interested in becoming affiliate of Virtual Sheet Music:

in the same way you did with Amazon, you can offer to you users Mp3 audio accompaniment files for most of the violin and other instrument pieces you have in catalog. On VSM you can also find the same sonata, concerto or public domain piece arranged for different instruments. You could earn a commission for every sold item there (30%). Just an idea to collect more money...--Fablau 23:33, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for the info. I'll discuss with Feldmahler and the others. This type of thing can be useful for keeping up with our server bills, which are due every month without fail! Carolus 23:38, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
I just visited the VSM site. The virtual sound files are quite nicely done. You folks might want to read through our pages on public domain, since I noticed two violations of USA copyright in just a couple of minutes: Debussy's Syrinx and Puccini's "Nessun Dorma" from Turandot. Both are very much under copyright in the USA, thanks to the term for pre-1978 publications. Carolus 23:55, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Thank you for your consideration as well about your copyright advice. About Syrinx we found out that it is now in the public domain (until a few years ago it was copyrighted).

About Puccini's Turandot, that's really interesting. We will find out more. Thank you for the info!--Fablau 08:37, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

I am curious how you could conclude that Syrinx is public domain in the USA? The Jobert score has a valid 1927 notice and even includes a claim of renewal (1954, which is technically possible under the renewal provisions of the 1909 law). As you can see, we have it tagged as non-PD in the USA. Was it not actually renewed? Works published from 1923-1977 in the USA are protected for 95 years from the date of publication, provided they were published with the prescribed notice and renewed after 28 years (for those published before 1964). Carolus 15:02, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

Thank you for your clarification, actually we were aware of that until we asked expressely to the Presser Company (the publisher that claimed Syrinx rights) if that composition was still under copyrights. They just said that wasn't any more. Must we assume that that was a misleading statement?

That's very interesting. The only way it could be public domain in the USA would be if the copyright was not actually renewed in 1954 or 1955. Presser is no longer the US agent for Durand, however. I think this agency may have gone to Boosey and Hawkes. Carolus 22:57, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

That's interesting indeed... is there any way (in your knowledge) to find out that information? Just to be 100% sure! Thank you for your time.--Fablau 12:20, 30 March 2009 (EDT)


I sent you one :)-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 20:27, 5 March 2009 (EST)

Congratulations, and welcome to the copyright review team! Carolus 23:44, 5 March 2009 (EST)


Hello Carolus, I've just had a look at the Category:Non-Public Domain Composers. Why are works by following composers available: Berge, Sigurd (permission?); Lamb, Joseph Francis; Trinkhaus, Georg John. All three died less than 50 years ago and I thought this rule would apply in Canada without exceptions. Regards, Hobbypianist 16:51, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

Berge is there with permission. Because of Rule of the Shorter Term, there could be works of US composers like Trinkhaus that are PD in Canada. I'll have a look anyway. Carolus 16:54, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
Ok, I see, US copyright exceptions again. And I too much focused on the sentences The Berne Convention and also the UCC define only the minimum requirements for copyrights that all signatory countries must meet... The Berne Convention lays down a minimal general copyright term of 50 years beyond the death of an author.... Still one point: according to this the treaty came into effect in Canada on 10th April 1928, and on Public_domain one can read that Canada did not adopt the rule. What's correct now? Hobbypianist 16:30, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
Actually, thanks to NAFTA and Canada's own law - which does not opt for Rule of the Shorter Term - the works of US composers would be covered for a full life-plus-50 in Canada. So, Trinkhaus is not PD in Canada, though in the EU (which does opt for Rule of the Shorter Term for non-EU works) any works of his that are PD in the USA are likely PD in most of the EU as well. Composers dead over 50 years (like Gershwin) are PD in Canada, however. I expect Edward Burlingame Hill is another case like Trinkhaus. I need to talk with Feldmahler about this issue to see if we should take down cases like this (the work is free in the USA and the EU but not Canada). This is the first time this issue has surfaced! Carolus 19:30, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Bach suites for Viola.

About my last upload of Bach suites (complete viola part). Fritz Spindler : I don't think he is that pianist composer you wrote (1817-1905),but an homonym.(because edition was prited in 1953 and he died in 1905).In the forewords of hofmeister edition, Spindler is named "Kammermusiker in Gewandhaus orchestra".So may be he is still alive.....This is my doubt.If you need I can send you a copy of hofmeister preface. Ciao and Thank you


Sorry you are right I have just foud this:

Sorry again

Ciao Carmar

No problem. I knew from looking at the engraving that it could not have been done in 1953. Hofmeister - like many German publishers - adopted the practice of affixing phony copyright notices to reprints of older works in the hope that Kalmus and other reprint houses would not issue them. Carolus 13:43, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Copyright tagging

Hi Carolus. Thanks for your e-mail, and I've just tagged my first file! — 4 Songs on Serbian Folk Poems, Op.6 (Dvořák, Antonín Leopold). I'm as certain as I can be that this comes into the reprint category mentioned in your third paragraph, even though I haven't been able to trace the original edition. Anyway, thanks again for the advice, and I'll tread cautiously until I've learned the ropes. Feel free to prod me if I make any mistakes :-) — P.davydov 17:13, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

That's a fine tag. I suspect it's a Simrock edition, but the German publishers are often difficult to tell apart, since so many things were ultimately produced by C.G. Röder's incredible music factory in Leipzig. Welcome to the copyright review team! Carolus 17:26, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

Can I seek your advice on Intermezzo (Ponce, Manuel)? It's a new typset, apparently submitted by the uploader. The composer died in 1948, so on that basis he would be PD in Canada but not in the EU, so I've tagged it accordingly. But I haven't been able to trace a year of composition (it doesn't appear in the composer's work list in Grove), and without any date of first publication I've had to leave the US status as "uncertain". So it remains blocked for the time being, unless you can advise differently? — P.davydov 16:40, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

I see Omar has created a new composer page here for Ponce, since the unidentified original publication has already been posted twice, as Intermezzo. I think this composer is usually known as Manuel Ponce, not Manual Ponce Cuellar, so it might be a good idea to move everything to the simpler name. At any rate, I could find nothing at all about the date of first publication, so it should remain as "unknown" until we find out. Thanks for the heads up, Carolus 16:49, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Tui St. George Tucker

I made a nice template on my User page as I did for the Schubert before I made a real template. Have fun! Makes things much easier.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:28, 12 March 2009 (EDT)


It's back. Users blocked, though.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:42, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, I just noticed. Have you reverted everything yet?
So far, plus 4 blocks. Two edits to my talk page in a row! I feel so loved <3-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:59, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
And you probably want to read the new messages on my talk. Bots...I'll just need to be faster. -- Snailey Yell at me Email me 22:00, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

"J.C. Bach" Concerto

Hello Carolus: We have another musical hoax that you might want to review. The Viola Concerto in C minor (Bach, Johann Christian) was actually composed by Henri Casadesus – the same situation as with his "Handel" Viola Concerto. This is detailed on Wikipedia pages for Henri Casadesus and Musical hoax. Hrdinský 10:01, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

Hi hrdinsky you could just have asked me to move it, or even move it yourself. The copyright status is correct as I tagged it according to the year of death of Casadesus. I moved it already to the Casadesus category. Peter talk 11:39, 28 March 2009 (EDT)


Bold text

Hello, I have "Rigoletto" clavier, it's issued 1955 in Soviet Russia, and has Russian text too, but Russian author isn't mentioned anywhere in the book. Could I scan it? Brit

Probably. If Muzgiz didn't mention the translator, they likely used an old one issued back in the days of Jurgenson and Gutheil. It could turn out to be a nasty surprise, but not really very likely. Carolus 14:48, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

I left a message on feldmahler's talk under "news" - I thought that you might perhaps have more info, etc.?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 22:39, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

We're still working on getting the account set up with them. Not ready yet. I'll let you know when it's available. Carolus 23:42, 12 April 2009 (EDT)


The general style is to put them on the user page, not the talk page. It also gets rid of the red links caused by empty user pages, with no Babel boxes, or Instrument things (Speaking of which.... :). Thanks, however, for letting me not feel like the only person giving positive reinforcement - although I thought that that star might have been a few submissions premature (no offence (seriously, no offence)).-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 15:19, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh, and you'll notice my change of wording.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 15:21, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

Thanks, That's the first star I tried to hand out. She's really been contributing some impressive scores and I thought she deserved some recognition for it. Carolus 15:51, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

Good enough - barnstars are supposed to be uncriticizable, so I really was just giving an opinion. -- Snailey Yell at me Email me 18:03, 18 April 2009 (EDT)


Bh2000 has added the vocal scores for Verdi's complete operas; I was going to upload them sometime tomorrow. Can you find any publisher, etc. info on them at all? The claim is that they're all PD.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 21:51, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

They're the CDSM series with the logos removed, it would appear. I already checked everything through Don Carlos before we went down for maintenance last weekend. They will be Ricordi if in Italian only, Schirmer if in Italian and English. They will certainly all be PD in the USA, so you can tag them C/V/C if you don't have any additional info on them. Also, be sure to check and see that we don't already have the score, since Arturo uploaded a number of Verdi scores which could be the same files. Carolus 23:39, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

Saint-Saëns edits

Hi Carolus. I noticed that you changed a publication date for the Opus 38 Berceuse from the one I initially set of 1874. Do you have specific source for this I'm unaware of? In completing this Saint-Saëns project, I'm using the first volume of the recently published thematic catalog by Sabina Teller Ratner (Oxford, 2002) and the date given for the publication (pp. 165-6) list it as 1874 (with plate 1954bis as a new edition fingered by Édouard Nadaud, 1913). I've therefore reverted the change, but do let me know if perhaps you think this is an error. Thanks for checking up on me! Daphnis 23:01, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Hi, OK I'll take Ratner's word for it then. It couldn't find any reference to the piece in the Hofmeister Monatsbericht which is generally accurate to within 6 weeks for items issued in Germany, Austria and France. I got my date from a list in an older edition of Grove, plus the plate number. Carolus 23:59, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Busoni Transcription of Paganini Etude No.3, La Campanella

Hi Carolus, I have left a detailed note for you on my talk page: User talk:Robert.Allen--Robert.Allen 01:53, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

Email link in Signature

I again recommend that you add an "email me" link to your signature. It is sometimes the easiset way for people to contact you - I almost always get email responses from new users.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 10:21, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Cimarosa Sonatas

I saw fingerings on the file, which probably means that the editor contributed significantly enoguh for full copyright...unless I am mistaken, which is most likely. Thanks!-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 16:57, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Cimarosa left fingerings on a number of his Sonatas, and there are also fingerings present in other public domain sources. It's a little difficult in this case to tell what editorial contributions are actually original. PWM blew the US copyright by publishing without a notice. We probably should start a discussion on the forum about this. Carolus 17:02, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
I knew about the notice...I guess they probably didn't go for the restoration anyways, so that's probably safe. Thanks again.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 17:10, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
Oh, and about my message above?-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 17:11, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
I'm usually here every day, and I get over a hundred non-spam messages a day in that account, so I'm not particularly anxious to increase the traffic there simply because there's an easy chance it will be overlooked. Carolus 17:23, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
Makes sense. It's just that some users, especially new users don't want to or know how to send a message on the user talk page.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 11:12, 29 April 2009 (EDT)

Haydn Theresienmesse

Hello - I have the study score Theresienmesse, Wiener Philharmonischer Verlag No. 121 (1924) (says "Alle Rechte vorbehalten / All rights reserved" but not "© copyright"). Is this PD as either 30 years urtext or 70 years after publication in Austria? (PD in US because PD in Austria in 1996?) Or must we consider life+something of some editor? Or is there some other issue? Thank you. Olmsted 20:28, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Hello, It's PD in the USA because there is not a correct notice, apparently. "Alle Rechte Vorbehalten" fails to qualify. It's probably an urtext so it was not eligible for restoration either. Go ahead and post it. Carolus 21:01, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Busoni Category Page

Hi Carolus,

I noticed that there were two pages for the same work: Piano Sonatina No.6 (Busoni, Ferruccio) and Fantasia da Camera super Carmen, KiV 284 (Busoni, Ferruccio). The two files are different scans of different publications of the same piece. I didn't really know how to deal with this, and perhaps I should have asked first. I moved the file from the Fantasia page to the Sonatina page (putting it first, since it's a first edition), and left a link to the Sonatina page on the Fantasia page. Seeing that this allowed an alternative title to be listed in Category:Busoni, Ferruccio, I thought maybe this wasn't such a bad idea, and I left the Fantasia page in the category. I also created another page with a redirect with the other title: Sonatina super Carmen, KiV 284 (Busoni, Ferruccio). This is kind of an experiment to deal with an unanticipated situation. Do you think this is satisfactory, or a bad idea?--Robert.Allen 22:27, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Hi Robert, What you did was actually a pretty good idea, since I've noticed that this piece is referred to by either title with some frequency. See below for more remarks. Carolus 03:01, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

Busoni Catalog Number Prefix

  • Roberge, Marc-André (1991). Ferruccio Busoni: A Bio-Bibliography. New York: Greenwood Press.
  • Couling, Della (2005). Ferruccio Busoni: A Musical Ishmael. Lanham, Maryland: Scarecrow Press.

These two references both use the prefix "BV" for Busoni-Verzeichnis catalog numbers. The books by Beaumont and Sitsky do not use Kindermann's catalog numbers, and Kindermann himself did not specify which letters should be used. I don't have any books that use "KiV". I have only seen the KiV prefix used on some web sites, including and IMSLP, and occasionally recordings. I don't know how or where the the "KiV" prefix originated.

Roberge, in a note on p. xxviii, states "Kindermann, in a letter dated 20 January 1981, agreed to my use of the [BV] abbreviations."

Personally, I think it might be wise to standardize on the "BV" prefix. The proliferation of prefixes being used for the Busoni catalog numbers is probably unfortunate. (I have also seen "K" and "Kind.", and Breitkopf has recently been adding the numbers to new editions with the prefix "Busoni-Verzeichnis".)

I realize this would be a big job: creating new pages, with redirects from the old names, for those pages which have "KiV" numbers and editing all the catalog numbers on the respective "Work Info" sections. I would volunteer to do the work, but would like some idea whether this would be acceptable to the IMSLP community before I started to do anything like this. Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!--Robert.Allen 02:03, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

I agree that standardizing to the BV prefix is the probably best way to go. I noticed that Wikipedia's worklist uses this system the other day, which seems very logical to me. I'm also glad you asked about it. I recommend posting your proposal over at the forum. This way, those interested in the Busoni section can voice their ideas about the idea. It is a lot of work, and I appreciate your willingness to carry it out. The thing to avoid are double redirects, which can be a real annoyance at times. Carolus 03:10, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

Amazon Recommendations Awry

You made nice improvements on the Reliquary of English Song page this morning, but Amazon still recommends Best of Extreme Booty, Vol. 1. (Why not subsequent volumes as well??!) Olmsted 15:54, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for alerting us, sometimes the automated searching feature will pick up something bizarre like that. We might need to modify the algorhythm when dealing with composer=various. This will probably take a while to fix. Carolus 18:52, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Michael Aaron

Hi Carolus. Checking on this composer today, I found an obituary in the New York Times indicating that he died in 1963 and not 1943, which puts all his work out of the PD for some time. Fortunately the one piece in this category was already blocked due to questionable US status, and I've updated the copyright tags accordingly, but should the work page and category now be deleted? Not being a sysop, I can't do this myself. Thanks — P.davydov 03:35, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for catching this. Yes, they need to be deleted. I'll eliminate both. Carolus 03:43, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

That was quick! Thanks — P.davydov 04:36, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

Nannerl's Music Book

Hello Carolus. I transcribed Nannerl's Music Book with Sibelius from DME mozarteum, serie IX, vol. 100. According to the date, "Wolfgang Plath, 1982" it should be free to distribute. I just typed it into Sibelius and converted it into a PDF file for neatnesses purposes.

Thank you, Mathiasc 20:55, 6 July 2009 (EDT)